052C/052D Class Destroyers
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I was thinking something like this but over time, it seemed like wishful thinking. The additional power requirements, the new weight and stress requirements on the radar mount, the new cooling requirements makes it potentially complicated and less likely. Furthermore it's going into other ships like the Type 075 where it is the second radar and the 054B which is the second radar hidden on the ESM base cone, so production is going to be busy.
The older radar is simple as it is underneath the white dome.
MwRYum
Major
If old ship are not cost effective for upgrade, then they typically relegate to second-line.
While China does have habit to sell-off retired vessels to friendly third-world countries, but as it seems that limited to production variants, whereas those prior to 052C are mostly experimental nature.
No, the presence of the existing Type 364 versus the new aesa surface search radar is not quite that significant in context of the ship's other capabilities, especially if upgrades for other subsystems are done as per normal.
Sir the newly built 052DL was spotted using the new radar, then we can suffice to say that the older 052D can use this radar during their midlife upgrade?
This was already addressed in post 5642 above, which I partly agree with and partly don't.
I think at present the best answer is we don't know whether older 052Ds can be upgraded with this new surface search radar during a MLU, as it would depend on what other upgrades they have.
As it often is, "we don't know" is the best answer.
Not really. The older radar worked so well. It was first introduced on the Type 052B, then went on the Type 052C, the 051C, the Type 054, the 054A, the 052D, the Liaoning, the Shandong, the Type 071, and even on the Type 051B refit and the Sovremenny refits. It must have gone many version improvements underneath and in the back end. It's sheer ubiquity and long life in the PLAN underlines it's technical success. The PLAN would not be making this in large numbers, used in so many ships and over a long period of time if the radar isn't successful.
The Type 056 and 056A appears to have a modified model of it, and it wasn't until the Type 055 that the PLAN replaced it with something else although it was a four faced fixed AESA for this ship, but one that is too expensive and too heavy. The lighter the radar the higher you can put it on top of a mast which increases the radar horizon, and a dual faced radar will obviously have less weight than a four faced one.
The Type 364 radar has a rotational speed of the antenna, which is 1 rotation every second. This means the radar has a full 360 update every second or 60 times per minute. It is optimized against sea clutter, which can be a problem with longer frequency search radars, including the Type 346 S-band radars. For this reason, the radar is responsible for the queuing of the HQ-10 and Type 730/1130 CIWS.
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
so do we have it confirmed there was two launches a few days ago?
and that makes 32 x Type 052D in the water
and that makes 32 x Type 052D in the water
Yes, the most recent launch of the 052D occurred at Dalian just a week ago.
And there are only 31x 052Ds in the water right now, not 32.