052C/052D Class Destroyers

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Newly Built PLAN Type 052D Destroyers Getting Fitted with Larger H/PJ-11 CIWS
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Based on pictures that have been just released by Chinese spotters, it appears that the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) next in-line Type 052D Destroyers (NATO reporting name Luyang III class) will be fitted with the H/PJ-11 close-in weapon system (CIWS) instead of the smaller H/PJ-12 currently fitted on existing vessels of the class.
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delft

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AndrewS said:
So why wouldn't the Chinese Navy be building 3 AEGIS destroyers per year, given that it's the same build rate as the USA?
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It might be that investments in other direction are more important. It is likely that PLAN will need more destroyers than in the past to accompany aircraft carriers and amphibious assault vessels but the numbers will be based on the needs of PLAN, not on comparison with USN.
 
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AndrewS

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It might be that investments in other direction are more important. It is likely that PLAN will need more destroyers than in the past to accompany aircraft carriers and amphibious assault vessels but the numbers will be based on the needs of PLAN, not on comparison with USN.
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Yes, warship construction will be based on the needs on the PLAN.

But sea control of the Western Pacific is an eventual goal in 15+ years, and this would require a clear margin of superiority over the US Navy.

Plus the trend is for lethality to be distributed amongst more platforms, which would augur for more large destroyer "motherships" for UAVs and UUVs and railguns.
 
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youngtomous

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AndrewS said:
Yes, warship construction will be based on the needs on the PLAN.

But sea control of the Western Pacific is an eventual goal in 15+ years, and this would require a clear margin of superiority over the US Navy.

Plus the trend is for lethality to be distributed amongst more platforms, which would augur for more large destroyer "motherships" for UAVs and UUVs and railguns.
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The top thing of China want to deal is Taiwan . it is comical to tall about control Western Pacific, but still not solve Taiwan problem.What a big joke! So over US Navy not a top urgent thing for China ,and also it is a very hard goals for China can get.
 
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AndrewS

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The top thing of China want to deal is Taiwan . it is comical to tall about control Western Pacific, but still not solve Taiwan problem.What a big joke! So over US Navy not a top urgent thing for China ,and also it is a very hard goals for China can get.
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You know Taiwan is located in the Western Pacific?

In order to resolve Taiwan, it is necessary to demonstrate that China can isolate Taiwan by controlling the waters of the Western Pacific.
 
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PanAsian

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AndrewS said:
Yes, warship construction will be based on the needs on the PLAN.

But sea control of the Western Pacific is an eventual goal in 15+ years, and this would require a clear margin of superiority over the US Navy.

Plus the trend is for lethality to be distributed amongst more platforms, which would augur for more large destroyer "motherships" for UAVs and UUVs and railguns.
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AndrewS said:
You know Taiwan is located in the Western Pacific?

In order to resolve Taiwan, it is necessary to demonstrate that China can isolate Taiwan by controlling the waters of the Western Pacific.
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15 years is very over-ambitious, so is "sea control of the Western Pacific" which is rather vague. There are many more countries in the region than just China and the US, with the significant military powers among them being US allies such as Japan and South Korea.

It would be very ambitious for the PRC just to try to roughly catch up with the US lead in deployed military technology in 15 years time, even only within fields the PRC needs, and maintain current force levels. This includes ships with railguns, SSK/Ns, SSBNs, stealth aircraft manned and unmanned, hard kill lasers, SAMs, ABMs, ASBMs, all sorts of PGMs, radars/sonars/sensors, EW equipment, nuclear deterrence, etc.

It is also very ambitious for the PRC just to aim for control (both air and sea) of the "Western Pacific" area immediately surrounding the PRC within the first island chain with the ability to bombard at will Taiwan and its vicinity including all its surrounding seas. Just that would be sufficient to discourage Taiwan independence, subject foreign intervention forces to attack in case of Taiwan independence, and for the PRC to mount a military operation into Taiwan.
 
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