00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

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[Bluedeepnavy]

Is like island?

 

[Tomboy]

I have a feeling that any ~90k ton CV, even a clean-sheet design, will still be called "003A" or Fujian's "sister ship" for a while. Gonna be a bit annoying.

Not unless we have strong evidence like procurement tender that suggest it to be a GT-IEP ship.

 

[GTI]

And yet, it will not stop some people from talking about a nuclear icebreaker or even a nuclear cargo ship.

Yes, those shots confirm it, but the containment module was present right next to the dry dock for almost half a year and yet people tried to claim that even if it's a carrier it might not be nuclear.

Being cautious is one thing, but completely ignoring the facts on the ground is something completely different.

I’m hoping that H-20 will be the final thing that leads to some long overdue changes.

Honestly, whatever. As long as it's "genetically" unrelated from the 003 I couldn't care less if it's called "003A." It just needs to be 1) a clean-sheet design similar in tonnage and hull to the CV-67 2) bigger with significantly better deck ergonomics than the Type 003 3) preferably GT-IPS.

The main purpose of the mockup in Wuhan, is to test out deck layouts, aircraft movement and spotting right?

IMO, they didn’t build that new “004+funnel aft” island, just to use their imagination and pretend it’s actually located amidships.

So the logical conclusion I’ve drawn is that it will be larger than 003 - and they’ve moved the boilers aft towards the stern, or that aft funnel is an exhaust with a down take funnel somewhere to the fore of it.

 

[Alfa_Particle]

Not unless we have strong evidence like procurement tender that suggest it to be a GT-IEP ship.

Which we kind of do:

Granted, nothing like a tender document, but still strongly suggest that something like this is in the works: a naval x4 GT + x10 diesel IEP system is in the works and experimented upon with the likely goal being actual application.

 

[Tomboy]

Which we kind of do:
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Granted, nothing like a tender document, but still strongly suggest that something like this is in the works: a naval x4 GT + x10 diesel IEP system is in the works and experimented upon with the likely goal being actual application.

I remember Orca saying this is for a CG

 

[Alfa_Particle]

I remember Orca saying this is for a CG

Soyo gave much more convincing arguments against that.

 

[Deino]

I have a feeling that any ~90k ton CV, even a clean-sheet design, will still be called "003A" or Fujian's "sister ship" for a while. Gonna be a bit annoying.

Indeed ...

 

[Maikeru]

As to whether CV-19 "should" be '003A' or a new GT design, it really depends on PLAN's timelines. Better an 003A in the hand than a putative GT IEP CV in the bush, perhaps.

 

[Alfa_Particle]

As to whether CV-19 "should" be '003A' or a new GT design, it really depends on PLAN's timelines. Better an 003A in the hand than a putative GT IEP CV in the bush, perhaps.

But do they really need a 003A right now or ASAP? Three carriers are more than enough for current potential endeavours.

It's better off to go for a future-proofed option that isn't constrained by an outdated, immature hull design.