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Nov 25, 2017
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the rectangular panels look like as if they were for the fire control of Shtil-1 (as fantasized in
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for Project 22160), just ... Project 22800 doesn't have Shtil-1
LOL!

señor?
señor says AESA panels (in blue:
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) ...
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well they do have THE panels ...

the Uragan (source
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the Typhoon (
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now the Shkval (
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(mounting
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by the way)
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
"Russia is prepared to pass on all the technology and reveal the production secrets ofthe Su-57 jet fighter to India for no less than $5bn. Indians, in turn, say that for this money they can independently develop a fifth generation fighter from scratch themselves."

If that were the case, then why launch another MMRCA bid for 110 fighters? Better yet, where is india's AMCA? Why isn't there a production line churning AMCAs yet?

Truth of the matter is that even if india had $20 billion, it wouldn't be able to roll out a full spectrum, Fifth Generation Stealth Combat Aircraft, in the next 50 years. It's just not the way indians operate, or are capable of achieving.

Don't get me wrong, nothing against indians. But their track record speaks for itself.

The Russians should not propose $5 billion for the Su-57s. That's just a ridiculously low price for an aircraft with far greater capabilities than all 4th-Gen+ fighters around. In fact, Russia should not even sell the ToT for even $20 billion. Unless it already has a far more advance jet than the Su-57.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
So I was cruising around the interwebs when I saw something interesting. Russian EFV.jpg
This is a concept from UralVagonZavod The main Russian tank builder.
I am doubting this is more than a mock up at this point in time but the goal should be clear, a Hydroplaning Amphibious combat vehicle, Like the USMC's Aborted Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle or the PLAMC ZDB series IFV's
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Like the EFV and ZBD the concept includes a turret with an auto cannon and based on this slide a number of possible variants. I don't read Russian but based on the Imagery Upper left looks like an IFV version for personal, lower looks like a Amphibious tank a replacement for the PT76 and the Chinese ZTD series. upper and lower center look like C2 or Recon or both with the center being the base hull APC. upper Right looks like a recovery vehicle configuration. Lower right looks like a SHORAD.
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Pump jets, Armata style crew cabin, passenger size is larger then the PLAMC 10 men but not as large as EFV 17 men.
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5 Road wheel track, mid engine configuration and I am about to cover the turret. From comments I have seen it seems to be 37kph sea speed 75 kph land 300km ground range 100 km sea weight 35 tons which is about the same as the EFV.
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Turret options thus far most of the Graphics favor the BM-57 a modification of the S60 57mm gun. The Russians are now claiming that they system has guided missile rounds. other options here upper left BMP3 lower 2 are variations of the 14.5mm Heavy MG a poor man's autocannon able to penitrate the sides of most IFV's left also has ATGMS upper right is a more traditional IFV 30mm cannon with ATGM.
Of course at this point this is Vaporware. Russian Naval Infantry ( Marines) have a different Doctrine then the EFV or PLA these days there main Amphibious Assault ships are LSD and LST but with at the beach drop where the ship's bow opens and a ramp drops the vehicles then "wade" Ashore. this if implemented would actually swim.
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
Registered Member
Like the EFV and ZBD the concept includes a turret with an auto cannon and based on this slide a number of possible variants. I don't read Russian but based on the Imagery Upper left looks like an IFV version for personal, lower looks like a Amphibious tank a replacement for the PT76 and the Chinese ZTD series. upper and lower center look like C2 or Recon or both with the center being the base hull APC. upper Right looks like a recovery vehicle configuration. Lower right looks like a SHORAD.
Clock-wise:
command vehicle
Armored SAM vehicle
ATGM launcher
Reconnaissance vehicle
Self-propelled artillery
IFV
 

timepass

Brigadier
Russia says 2 dead in fighter jet crash off Syrian coast

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"A Russian fighter jet crashed Thursday off the coast of Syria, killing both pilots, according to Russia's Defense Ministry, which said the plane did not come under fire and that the crash may have been caused by a bird getting sucked into one of the engines.

State news agency Tass cited the ministry as saying the Su-30 crashed shortly after takeoff from the Russian air base at Hemeimeem in Syria. Russia has been waging an air campaign in support of President Bashar Assad's forces since 2015."

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Equation

Lieutenant General
"Russia is prepared to pass on all the technology and reveal the production secrets ofthe Su-57 jet fighter to India for no less than $5bn. Indians, in turn, say that for this money they can independently develop a fifth generation fighter from scratch themselves."

If that were the case, then why launch another MMRCA bid for 110 fighters? Better yet, where is india's AMCA? Why isn't there a production line churning AMCAs yet?

Truth of the matter is that even if india had $20 billion, it wouldn't be able to roll out a full spectrum, Fifth Generation Stealth Combat Aircraft, in the next 50 years. It's just not the way indians operate, or are capable of achieving.

Don't get me wrong, nothing against indians. But their track record speaks for itself.

The Russians should not propose $5 billion for the Su-57s. That's just a ridiculously low price for an aircraft with far greater capabilities than all 4th-Gen+ fighters around. In fact, Russia should not even sell the ToT for even $20 billion. Unless it already has a far more advance jet than the Su-57.
When you are under economic sanctions like Russia is suffering right now, $5 Billion does sounds a lot like $20 Billion.;)
 
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