RuAF PAK-FA and IAF FGFA project: now Su-57 News & Discussions

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    this video mentions among many things that Su-57 has internal weapons bays
     
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    108 for India ! much less than planned initialy 250 after 214, enough for 5 Sqns one Indina have 18 fighters and the rest for attrition etc... minimum 8 to 10 years before getting inducted

    India to finalize fifth-gen fighter deal
    https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/08/09/india-to-finalize-fifth-gen-fighter-deal/

    More of Rafale maybe :D
     
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    absolutely no doubt about that, none! I'd say LockMart will build the F-16 in India, hoping to roll the Indian's onto the F-35, which isn't nearly as sexy looking as PAK-FA, but is likely much better sensor fused and up to snuff for real life as a 5 Gen combat aircraft, we'll see??

    and who knows whether or not the US will even sell the F-35 to India??
     
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    latest airshow at Kubinke

    Su-57 at minute 14 onwards
     
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    Nice airshow, and the SU-57 tail chase is a nice illustration of this aircrafts slow speed maneuverability, like the F-35, it has very superior aerodynamic characteristics, and appears to fly very well in the second edition, your earlier post quoted someone as saying the FCS was also updated in the LRIP aircraft, interesting, as well as acknowledging the initial structural issues with the -1 aircraft..

    I'd like a detailed explanation of the structural weakness of the -1, as well as particulars on how the -2 rectified those, its always fascinating to me to note that even with the best engineering in the world, that equipment will find any means possible to fail, at the worse possible time, and almost always, deep within the structure where you would have sworn it could never fail.. such is the nature of high performance aircraft!
     
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    hello brat, brat in Russian is brother.

    Up to what i know, T-50-5, was fixed, T-50-6 is new, T-50-7 is a static structural prototype, if i am not wrong there are two static test beds T-50-07 and T-50-00.

    So T-50-05 was fixed as originally Sukhoi said.

    The current Su-57 can not super cruise as fast as F-22, it reaches Mach 1.3, well behind the Raptor, perhaps Su-35 is as fast or a bit slower when it supercruises than Su-57.

    the reason to cut production is Su-35 very likely can supercruise as fast as the Su-57 or very close to it, having the same engine, (almost the same engine because it is just a variant) it flies the whole envelope from post stall to turn rates at combat weight very close to PAKFA.

    So it is not very smart to buy many until type 30 engine starts production post 2020.

    I guess we will need to wait until 2024 to see a good book to know in detail the history of the design.

    the say type 30 might have stealth features, i do not know if it is a flat nozzle or just wedges like F-35's nozzles
     
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    Notice the different shaped tail stings.
     
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    Rear radar in the tailsting?
     
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