PRC/PLAN Laser and Rail Gun Development Thread

[AssassinsMace]

This was just posted 30 min ago. It's an armor piercing round fired from a PTL02. Unless of course this is China's notorious creative editing.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/effectiveness-of-wheeled-atgms-carriers.t96/page-4#post-448908

 

[Blitzo]

This was just posted 30 min ago. It's an armor piercing round fired from a PTL02. Unless of course this is China's notorious creative editing.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/effectiveness-of-wheeled-atgms-carriers.t96/page-4#post-448908

It's not creative editing or at least I'm not sure why we'd suspect that it's anything like that -- it's just that the footage of the target being destroyed was incorrectly interpreted as something more than it was (i.e.: just a shot from an anti tank gun of a tank destroyer)

I mean you would have to be reaching quite hard to see that target being destroyed and automatically want to put it in the laser/rail gun thread... common sense would suggest it is probably something far less exotic.

 

[Iron Man]

OMG of course that was some kind of kinetic round. This is real life, not Star Wars.

 

[Quickie]

not necessarily, the object being shot isn't exactly a single solid structure but rather a vehicle made up of lots of hinges and individual parts like doors and such. Depending on the type of ammunition and the exact location of the shot, I think having the source of the fire come from the right side of the footage makes sense, considering the debris which is flying off seems to the door.

Also, I think there's a CCTV clip which this is a part of, which shows it is part of a PTL02 anti tank gun exercise.

You can actually go through the video footage frame by frame by moving the tab below.
The bright yellow streak of smoke, possibly the remaining parts of the ammunition, appears only after 2 or 3 frames after start of the explosion.

 

[Blitzo]

You can actually go through the video footage frame by frame by moving the tab below.
The bright yellow streak of smoke, possibly the remaining parts of the ammunition, appears only after 2 or 3 frames after start of the explosion.

I think we are overanalyzing what I think has clearly been demonstrated to be just an anti tank round.

 

[Jura The idiot]

I think we are overanalyzing what I think has clearly been demonstrated to be just an anti tank round.

what is that yellow smoke please?

(above is #8 from what you posted Today at 7:50 AM

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[Blitzo]

what is that yellow smoke please?

(above is #8 from what you posted Today at 7:50 AM
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What do you think it is?

If a kinetic energy round of that size is moving very quickly propelled from an anti-tank gun, and in a dusty environment like that, what could it logically be?

 

[Jura The idiot]

What do you think it is?

If a kinetic energy round of that size is moving very quickly propelled from an anti-tank gun, and in a dusty environment like that, what could it logically be?

I don't know

 

[Blitzo]

I don't know

It's just the disturbance and/or heat friction of the movement of the shell through the air and the tiny bits of dust floating in the air.

The camera is not at a high enough frame rate to be able to see a true slow motion footage shell pass through the air and into the target and to have everything explode and appear in a sensible sequence so it looks like the target explodes before the streak behind the shell appears.

But in reality it's what a normal high speed kinetic projectile looks like. It's really not that exotic

 

[Jura The idiot]

... It's really not that exotic

thanks ... I was just waiting for my chicken stake to arrive, so I looked here ... in the meantime I used google to translate the caption of #1 from the gallery you posted Today at 7:50 AM

解放军PTL02式100毫米突击炮在高原上进行实弹演练，开火射击模拟靶标！PTL02式突击炮采用了86式反坦克炮作为主炮，射速可达8~10发/分钟，可使用脱壳穿甲弹、破甲弹和榴弹，其性能足以对抗第二代主战坦克。

: "People's Liberation Army PTL02 100 mm assault guns on the plateau for live-fire drill, fire shooting simulation target! PTL02-type assault gun with 86 anti-tank gun as the main gun, the firing rate of up to 8 to 10 rounds / minute, you can use shelling armor piercing armor, armor and grenade, its performance enough to fight the second generation of main battle tanks."