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alwaysfresh

New Member
Wow CIA is deleting alot of post today.....

I just saw 7-10 post disappear on the nukes being send to Taiwan.

So the US sent nukes to Taiwan, after KMT wins. Wow this is what I call interference in other countries.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Wow CIA is deleting alot of post today.....

I just saw 7-10 post disappear on the nukes being send to Taiwan.

So the US sent nukes to Taiwan, after KMT wins. Wow this is what I call interference in other countries.

1)I'm the CIA:D..I moved the post because someone opened a duplicate thread. So the post are still here. Check it out!

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/general-military/us-mistakenly-ships-icbm-parts-taiwan-3840.html

2)Those parts were sent in 2006. Long before the KMT victory of two days ago.
 

kliu0

Junior Member
Yea, theres no point in 2 posts of the same thing. But anyway Taiwan should've reverse engineered it. I mean theres rumors that Taiwan has nukes. Taiwan isn't stupid, when they are so close to having nukes they wont just stop because of US pressure. The nuke is Taiwan's Plan B.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Nuke is useless without any testing to validate the technology. Otherwise its only theory and no practice.
 

Obi Wan Russell

Jedi Master
VIP Professional
Nuke is useless without any testing to validate the technology. Otherwise its only theory and no practice.

And nukes are the one weapon system it is impossible to test in secret. Test it above ground and even if no one sees it or hears it, a satellite will pick it up. Test it below ground and the shockwave will be detected on the other side of the planet, so secrecy is impossible. You can design the perfect bomb, but if you can't test it then it's just a shiny piece of metal.
 

Finn McCool

Captain
Registered Member
I don't know if that is entirely correct. If you are building a nuke you are getting the information from somewhere, you can follow the plan and leave it sitting there with a reasonable assurance that it will go off when you detonate it. It's not as if they were building the first nuke.

Also people are talking about this as if we sent a whole nuclear weapon over to Taiwan. It wasn't. It was the fuse. So this wouldn't be of much use unless Taiwan has an existing nuclear program. They might, but if they did China would probably know and would make quite a big deal about it.
 

kliu0

Junior Member
I wasnt saying that the US sent a entire nuke to Taiwan, i was trying to say if Taiwan duplicated the fuse and combined that with their nuclear program. Even though they have publicly shut it down, many people inside the Taiwanese military still believe its going on in top secret conditions. Dont forget that Taiwan released a statement years ago about successfully producing a nuclear weapon reaction. They have the knowledge, they can do it = thats my theory.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
I have no idea how much truth there is to this article. It is trrue that bosth ships are at sea. Actually the Nimitz may still be in Hong Kong...but they are on a training mission and normal duties. I can find no offical statement from any US DoD source.

Official: 2 U.S. carriers to stay near Taiwan

Kyodo News Service
Posted : Wednesday Apr 9, 2008 11:48:24 EDT

TAIPEI, Taiwan — Two U.S. aircraft carriers will remain deployed in
waters near Taiwan to ensure a smooth transition of government in
Taipei amid heightened regional tensions, Taiwan Defense Minister
Michael Tsai said Wednesday.

Tsai told a parliamentary session that the Kitty Hawk and Nimitz
will stay in the "Western Pacific" near Taiwan after deploying here
since shortly before the island's March 22 presidential election.

"The deployments have their strategic significance, " Tsai told
lawmakers, citing what he said was the U.S. Pacific Command's
position that "the period between March 22 and May 20 is an
uncertain time for the Taiwan Strait."

Taiwan's President-elect Ma Ying-jeou will be inaugurated May 20.

Although Ma campaigned largely on vows to improve cross-strait ties,
presidential elections and transitions of government on Taiwan are
traditionally sensitive periods in the strait.

China, which claims Taiwan as its own, sometimes resorts to saber-
rattling when the self-ruled island exercises its democratic
autonomy.

Central to Beijing's geopolitical strategy is to eventually bring
Taipei under its political fold, by force if necessary.

Asked by lawmakers Wednesday if the deployments' objective "is to
deter China or to ensure a smooth transition of government in
Taiwan," Tsai replied, "Both."

For military affairs expert Andrei Chang, "the deployments are a
message to both Taiwan and China: `Don't provoke each other,'" said
Chang, who runs Kanwa Defense Review, a military affairs magazine.

Pro-independence rhetoric from Taipei typically invites a
threatening posture by Beijing, which in turn unnerves Washington,
Taipei's chief security guarantor.

Although nominally committed to Taipei's defense, Washington seeks
to rein in independence moves by Taipei to head off a cross-strait
conflict that could involve the U.S. military.

In 1996, China fired unarmed missiles near Taiwan in exercises meant
to curb independence rhetoric by then-President Lee Teng-hui and
intimidate voters on the eve of the island's presidential election
that year.

The maneuvers led to a deployment of the Kitty Hawk in the strait
and a standoff between U.S. naval forces and China's People's
Liberation Army.

China's threatening exercises quickly stopped and the Kitty Hawk
later left the strait without further incident.

The latest deployments, however, appear larger, with opposition
Nationalist Party lawmakers Wednesday asking Tsai whether patrols by
both the Nimitz and Kitty Hawk "constituted unusual naval activity
in regional waters."

According to Taiwan's Defense Ministry, the Kitty Hawk left its port
in Japan just days before Taiwan's election, while the U.S. Pacific
Command said the Nimitz has been in the Western Pacific since
January.

Defending the strait amid Taipei's latest government transition is
likely the Kitty Hawk's last mission. The carrier George Washington
left its U.S. port earlier this week to eventually replace the aging
Kitty Hawk as the chief supercarrier in the Asia Pacific region.

Both the Kitty Hawk and Nimitz are expected to patrol waters near
Taiwan until after Ma takes office.

The Nimitz is patrolling with its entire strike group, which
includes an array of destroyers, submarines and other vessels, while
the Kitty Hawk is patrolling with just one destroyer, a U.S. Pacific
Command spokesman said last month.
 

Sargon

New Member
And nukes are the one weapon system it is impossible to test in secret. Test it above ground and even if no one sees it or hears it, a satellite will pick it up. Test it below ground and the shockwave will be detected on the other side of the planet, so secrecy is impossible. You can design the perfect bomb, but if you can't test it then it's just a shiny piece of metal.


Quite true in a way. But actually testing a nuclear device is less about seeing if it works and more about making sure everyone in the world knows that you possess one. Look at Israel, have they ever tested one? Despite this most informed sources presume they have one.

The bit about it being impossible to test a nuke in secret reminds me of something McNamara said in a documentary. Top US military officials in the early 1960s, with the start of Soviet ICBM launches, seriously considered whether the Soviets were testing nukes on the darkside of the moon. :rofl:
 
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