Jura The idiot
General
OK sorry
Hong-Kong Protests
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manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Tanks? Hong Kong is China. There are no legal dividing processed stopping Chinese tanks from rolling into Hong Kong, not even by the Sino-British Joint Declaration, which leaves national security and military action as aspects in which Hong Kong has no autonomy. Your lack of understanding of how much China truly cares for its citizens as demonstrated not only in its soft approach to Hong Kong but also its tactics in fighting the trade war leave you talking about a country that does not exist save for in your imagination.
Then why does the youth in China love their country rather than riot as well? There are so many people in China that to tell you to truth, no military in the world could stop them if they rioted. But instead, they give an unprecedentedly high level of support to the CCP, something a foreigner reading Western (or Indian) newspapers would never find out.
This would be your most laughable statement yet, and it is the most telling of how ignorant you are of China. Firstly, you never accede to the demands of rioters; that's a principle. Doing so is like paying terrorists more money every day to not be terrorists for that day. Secondly, the people of China will simply not stand for it, to watch masked men destroy public property and attack unarmed civilians and in the end, succeed in getting what they want? No, that kind of reaction can actually cause protests in China. Lastly, in response to your most comical suggestion, if the youth in the Mainland rise up in protest, it will be to form an angry mob to destroy the garbage in Hong Kong. You are so ignorant, you don't know that you can't find a single guy in China who supports this. Your image of China is completely founded in Western media-instilled imagination!
The West? No, just the US. The West is concerned about not going into recession and wants to work with China to avert it. The US is desperately trying to claw back its prime times of unchallenged hegemony and doesn't care who needs to get hurt for it. There is no reason to appease the US. At this point, the sheer level of violence exhibited by the rioters that is documented on film provides more than enough evidence to go to the UN and justify military action. It is purely China's choice to hold it off so far.
Oh, congratulations, that is the only thing you got right because that is the only thing that you have experience with! Very good! You see the day and night difference between experience and imagination? Such a great way to end the post with an example for your education!
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As far as I know, the last time that China sent tanks to crackdown protests was 30 years ago in TAM. It's funny to me how so many people attribute HK's previous glory on democracy, which is totally not true. HK has never had a true Western-style democracy pre or post-handover. HK's success was because it was stable entity that served as the sole source of international trade between the Chinese mainland and rest of the world. But as the mainland's reform and opening up progressed, it's importance diminished drastically. Quite frankly, a lot of anger these days comes from the feeling of superiority and hostility towards the mainlanders. It's kind of like the feeling that when someone who was worse than you suddenly became more successful than you.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Exactly both SEA Chinese and Hongkonger are descendant of Chinese migrant from mainland But people in SEA never had this superior feeling toward the mainlander. We joke and make fun of their quirk and lack of decorum sometime But that is the end of it
If anything living in multi cultural setting confirm our believe in the superiority of Chinese culture and civilization.
Another thing having been in contact with the west for hundred of years and work with them in running the trade in SEA We never feel inferior or has to grovel to the west. We just treated people as they are no superior and no inferior People should be judged on their own merit as individual.
Hongkie feel they are richer, sophisticated and has more access to the wider world . But who are they to kidding these days. The Mainlander now travel widely spending money all over the world Their kids go to the best school in the west. The middle class definitely has a better housing than in Hongkong
They get access to all the consumer good the world has to offer All and all they feel their live is getting better Now Honkie live in bird cage, they now have to compete for jobs in Hongkong, They see how mainlander splurge money in Hongkong Envy mix with inferiority result in hate
Yet the western (Anglo-Saxon) farce continue. This is top latest top news from google news for their renowned propagandist at The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Economist and Foreign Affairs and the Atlantic. Supposed to be based in HK also so pretty much willful ignorance or malicious intent or just plain stupidity.
" is a journalist based in Hong Kong and New York. Her work has been published by The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Economist and Foreign Affairs. "
" is a journalist based in Hong Kong and New York. Her work has been published by The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Economist and Foreign Affairs. "
Not sure this is appropiate, and just. At the moment, all people born in Hong Kong is automatically a Hong Kong citizen, in addition, the childten born outside of Hong Kong to parents who are Hong Kong citizen is also considered to be Hong Kong citizen. Also, people who have lived and worked in Hong Kong for over 7 years is considered Hong Kong citizen.
I think this is right and inline with most other countries in the world, at the moment, in the UK, an immigrant has to go through a citizen test in order to be a British Citizen. So I think for people applying for HK citizenship, I would introduce the citizen test!
Now for those in Government and national essential, security and/or get pay by public funding should swear their allegiance and loyality to HK and China.
supercat
Major
Typical western MSM propaganda, completely ignoring the fact that many many Hongkongers appreciate Hong Kong police force's dedication and bravery, and respect them even more than before.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
To become a British or American citizen, you also need to pledge allegiance to the Queen/Republic.
If Beijing really wants to play hardball, after 47, they can inverse the special status of HK residents and make them second class citizens, much like how the British treated them. If they want to become full Chinese citizens, they need to swear allegiance to China, and their citizenship can be revoked if they subsequently go back on that pledge and/or commit serious crimes against Chinese interests.
Since these idiot rioters don’t want to be Chinese, they can choose not to be; but will have no freedom to travel to other parts of China, never mind abroad; will get zero public funding; will be ineligible for any government or public jobs...the list is endless.
There is no right for anyone to damage China’s interests on the one hand while expecting to make money off China on the other. If they cannot figure out which side their toast is buttered, they don’t deserve toast.
supercat
Major
It turns out that the extradition bill is , not the central government's:
, some Hong Kong students started boycotting classes. Unlike labor strike, boycotting class will really affect your future. Let's see how long they can last.
, some Hong Kong students started boycotting classes. Unlike labor strike, boycotting class will really affect your future. Let's see how long they can last.