Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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taxiya

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Back in the 2000s the US and Europe complained to China that it didn't want the country to go on it's own system that was being discussed in Beijing because then in order for them to sell cell phones in China, they would have to spend the money for their phones to work on China's system.
You mean "China did NOT want to go on with Chinese standard that was discussed"? Or you mean "China wanted to go on its own, so to block foreign system"? I guess you meant the later, that would make the Europeans and Americans complain.

The matter was that at the time of starting 2G, China did not have the system architecture design, nor the production capability to push for domestic standard. I know the discussion of domestic standard (and decision of dropping the effort) as I knew a professor involved from today's BUPT (back then Beijing Post Communication Institute). The situation was only changed and China being ready to go for its own standard at the time of 3G. Besides, even if China push for domestic option at the time, it will be a slightly bigger sized PDC (Japan) without the chance to spread out to other countries because China wasn't influential abroad back then. I say slightly bigger than PDC is because with a much higher GDP, Japan would have higher percentage of users even total population is lower. China's bigger would only be due to the absolute size of population. It will fail like PDC due to small market share.

The US complain bared fruit, as China was forced by Clinton to buy CDMA (China Unicom). The network was never big. I would call it a burglary on the US part. However, I don't think Europe's complaint exited because China made the willing choice because of lack of domestic option.
 
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AssassinsMace

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You mean "China did NOT want to go on with Chinese standard that was discussed"? Or you mean "China wanted to go on its own, so to block foreign system"? I guess you meant the later, that would make the Europeans and Americans complain.

The matter was that at the time of starting 2G, China did not have the system architecture design, nor the production capability to push for domestic standard. I know the discussion of domestic standard (and decision of dropping the effort) as I knew a professor involved from today's BUPT (back then Beijing Post Communication Institute). The situation was only changed and China being ready to go for its own standard at the time of 3G. Besides, even if China push for domestic option at the time, it will be a slightly bigger sized PDC (Japan) without the chance to spread out to other countries because China wasn't influential abroad back then. I say slightly bigger than PDC is because with a much higher GDP, Japan would have higher percentage of users even total population is lower. China's bigger would only be due to the absolute size of population. It will fail like PDC due to small market share.

The US complain bared fruit, as China was forced by Clinton to buy CDMA (China Unicom). The network was never big. I would call it a burglary on the US part. However, I don't think Europe's complaint exited because China made the willing choice because of lack of domestic option.

The later. There was also the accusation then that the Chinese government was working on behalf of Chinese companies which the US complained. This is another example where the US does what they tell China not to do but here you have the US government acting on behalf of US cell phone manufacturers.
 

Tam

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I always wonders why GSM wan the war of standard. At the beginning of the competition of CDMA and GSM, both Europe and US were the same size in terms of market (population and economy). The technologies were equally advanced according to former colleagues of mine who had worked in both. The fight could only be determined in how other countries choose. China at the time was the only decisive market that can make a decisive difference, a single market with a fast growing consumer base. By the end of the 2G era, China is the second largest mobile market bigger than Europe, only slightly smaller than US. That left GSM a world standard while CDMA a regional one.

Did the American vendors or government purposefully blocked something or inserted something in CDMA that scared China away from adopting CDMA? Or China simply wanted to choose something from Europe that had less strings and tricks? Or maybe both?

A even more weird fight was Japan's sticking to PDC standard which only Japan used. What were they thinking?

Similar things happened to other standard wars, like the TV standards between German PAL and American NTSC.

However, the standard war was not the only reason for the downfall of American telecom vendors. Motorola was equally strong in GSM (in China) in RBS. Lucent could have provided the core network equipment to Motorola's RBS if they wanted to compete in GSM. There is no difference in core equipment in terms of radio standards. But that did not happen.

Only one Chinese telecom adopted CDMA, but China Unicom is the runt of the three major Chinese telecoms. I also heard that CDMA was used in one of the Indonesian networks but that didn't last.

GSM was one of those rare moments the entire Europe was united behind something, and they worked fast to get it out and executed.

GSM turned out to be far more attractive to emerging countries, all around the world.

And then there was Nokia. Finally, something called SMS which became known as text messaging.
 

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Only one Chinese telecom adopted CDMA, but China Unicom is the runt of the three major Chinese telecoms. I also heard that CDMA was used in one of the Indonesian networks but that didn't last.

GSM was one of those rare moments the entire Europe was united behind something, and they worked fast to get it out and executed.

GSM turned out to be far more attractive to emerging countries, all around the world.

And then there was Nokia. Finally, something called SMS which became known as text messaging.

For CDMA, I remember Chinese version had a "SIM" to compete with GSM so that people can change phone without the hassle of calling into the network to register the phone. In North America, the reason it died was because of locked phones. The worse part of it is that even if you have an unlock phone, the service provider refused to register it.
 
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Huawei launches new generation of smartphones in Kuwait
Xinhua| 2019-04-05 03:55:59
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Chinese technology and smartphone giant Huawei launched on Thursday the HUAWEI P30 Series, a new generation of smartphones, to Kuwaiti consumers.

At the launch event held in the Avenues Mall in Farwaniya Governorate, the largest shopping mall of Kuwait, Huawei said it has worked to optimize the Huawei P30 series camera for Snapchat whose users will soon enjoy more experiences with the smartphone.

The advanced camera smartphones will bring people new photography experiences and take smartphone videography to another level, according to Huawei.

Mohammad Sofi, who works at a local bank, expressed his excitement to purchase the new Huawei smartphone.

"I'm a Huawei fan because it is easier and smaller, which make it easy to handle. Also, the camera is great where the zooming gets a closer picture," the 24-year-old man told Xinhua.

Huawei's camera captures amazingly clear and detailed photos, including colors and low-light shots, he said.

"It has an ultra-wide angle lens in the mix. And the quality of photos in dark settings is pretty exceptional," Sofi added.

Salem Ali, 28, who works at a Kuwaiti company, said Huawei is a great phone whose battery lasts longer.

"The phone has a great screen display, and the zoom is great," he noted.

For Loai Saeb, managing director of a Kuwaiti trading company, the Huawei phone caught his attention through its camera, the fingerprint in the screen and the colors, in addition to "the promotion that includes the smartwatch, airpods and a good warranty for VIP at a good price."
 

Hendrik_2000

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Huawei is creating a buzz just like Apple at one time well it was long ago. The debut in Singapore is successful with people camping out and line up the day before the release
via Taishang. I guess the success will be repeated in other Asian cities
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Flagship Huawei P30 Series sold out before noon during official release at VivoCity

Update: April, 06/2019

  • People were lining up as early as 9pm the night before the official release
  • Popular demand of the Huawei P30 Series underlines the brand's growing appeal in Singapore

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Image 1. Crowds eagerly waiting to get their hands on the latest Huawei P30 Series smartphone this morning.


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made its debut sale at VivoCity with hundreds in line as early as 9pm the day before. Since its global launch in Paris last week, the Huawei P30 Series quickly became the talk of the town among fans and new users for its world's first Leica Quad Camera with industry-leading zoom capabilities and low-light performance.

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Image 2. Ms. Yvelyn Tey, together with her fiancé were first in line since 9pm the night before.

Ms. Yvelyn Tey, age 29, was first in line since 9pm before the day of launch with her fiancé and she will be using a Huawei smartphone for the first time. "I started to know about Huawei since its launch of its previous Mate 20 Series and I have heard great reviews of the phone ever since. My fiancé has also been raving to me about the cameras on Huawei. I often use my phone to take photos so having a good camera is really key for me. When I heard about the night mode of the P30 Series, I was very impressed."

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Image 3. Ms. Valerie Kang and her boyfriend came prepared to camp overnight since 10pm to purchase the new Huawei P30 Pro.

Next in line was another young couple, Ms. Valerie Kang, age 29, and her boyfriend who came prepared to camp overnight since 10pm for the Huawei P30 Series. "When we saw how the Mate 20 Series was sold out so quickly last year, we decided to arrive early last night to be safe so that we can get our P30 Pro together," commented Ms. Kang. "We have never used a Huawei before and we are very excited to use the camera because of the good reviews that we have read online."

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Image 4. Travellers from Belgium, Lizze de Vreese and her boyfriend took a special trip downtown to VivoCity to purchase the Huawei P30 Pro.

The release of the Huawei P30 Series today also drew the hearts of many beyond the shores of Singapore including travellers from Belgium, Lizzie de Vreese and her boyfriend who took a special trip downtown to VivoCity to purchase the Huawei P30 Pro. "I've seen so many incredible images shared on social media that were taken with a Huawei phone and I knew that I had to switch my phone then. I have always been an Android user but I have been completely bought over by the camera quality of the P30 Pro. I am looking forward to snap away with my new phone during my travels!"
 

Hendrik_2000

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Image 5. Customers trying out the new SuperZoom lens on the Huawei P30 and P30 Pro.

Taking the reins from its predecessor, the P20 Pro, the Huawei P30 Pro tops the charts in DxOMark's Photo and Video categories with an all-time high score of 112 and 97 points respectively.

Further adding to Huawei's smartphone photography credentials, the Huawei P30 Pro was recently recognised by the Technical Image Press Association (TIPA) as "Best Photo Smartphone". The crowning jewel of the HUAWEI P30 Pro rests in its world's first Leica Quad Camera that is equipped with a revolutionary RYYB colour filter array, empowering photography enthusiasts to capture stunning images even in the dark with the smartphone.

The Huawei P30 Pro was also lauded among the crowd for its jaw-dropping 50x digital zoom capabilities that can capture objects on camera as far as approximately 580 metres in distance, a breakthrough for the smartphone industry.

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Image 6. Mr. Francis Toh (right) decided to switch his phone to a Huawei P30 Pro after being convinced by his wife Mrs. Amy Toh (left).

Mr. Francis Toh, decided to switch to Huawei after being convinced by his wife, Mrs. Amy Toh, who has used the Huawei Mate 10 and P20 Pro. "When I compared the images taken from my phone and my wife's, I was very amazed with the detail and the difference was very obvious. I decided to follow the updates for the latest Huawei products so that I can plan my purchase ahead. I think what really makes the P30 Pro stand out for me is the low-light photography and zoom capabilities that no other phone has ever introduced."

In 2018, the global sales revenue of Huawei's consumer business reached CNY348.9 billion, up 45.1% year-on-year. In Singapore, Huawei maintained strong sales growth that doubled from the previous year. Huawei also emerged in the list of top 5 brands in YouGov Brand Index for most improved brand sentiment in 2018.

"Innovative technologies has always been the hallmark of our brand. The new Huawei P30 Series features outstanding camera upgrades ahead of its time that will enable more freedom and room for creativity among users to capture the best moments in life," said Xu Chengfei, Managing Director of Huawei Consumer Business Group Singapore. "The response at our public launch today has exceeded our expectations and is testament to consumers' confidence in our line of smartphones. The Huawei P30 Series is our best-seller yet and we look forward to providing our customers with more quality and innovative products."

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Image 7. This year, Huawei introduced an electronic queue system at its launch event to facilitate a swift and smooth customer experience during purchase. Customers who were in line overnight were also treated to breakfast and given bottles of water.

The HUAWEI P30 Series is available at all Huawei Concept Stores, local telecommunication operators, authorised mobile retailers, selected consumer electronic stores and online marketplaces.

What's more, those who purchase the HUAWEI P30 Series will be entitled to a 2-year warranty and enjoy premium services under the HICARE PRESTIGE package which includes:

● One year door-to-door repair pick-up and delivery service

● Two years warranty

● Three months screen insurance*
 

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Huawei is clicking on all fronts. It just become the 3rd ranked Server company in the world during the 4th quarter in 2018 (by revenue). It shoot up with a growth rate of 45.9% year over year. Dell and HP are the number 1 and number 2 in the world. A year ago (4th quarter 2017), it is ranked number 5.

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Huawei shines in server market with third position

Huawei Technologies has revealed how it achieved the third largest supplier position in the server market in the fourth quarter of 2018.

The latest Gartner report said server revenue grew 17.8 percent in the fourth quarter of 2018, while shipments rose 8.5 percent.

Huawei servers ranked global No. 3 by revenue in Q4 2018, with 45.9 percent growth rate, the highest growth rate for servers in the world.

Dell EMC increased its server market share to 20.2 percent in Q4 2018 from 19.4 percent share in Q4 2017.

HPE’s server revenue market share fell to 17.7 percent in Q4 2018 from 19.3 percent in Q4 2017, according to Gartner.

Inspur’s server revenue share increased to 8.2 percent from 6.8 percent. IBM’s server share dropped to 8.2 percent from 14.1 percent.

The global server revenue rose 17.8 percent to $21.862 billion in Q4 2018. Server volume grew 8.5 percent to 3,472,886 servers. Server shipments grew 13.1 percent and server revenue increased 30.1 percent in 2018.

The Gartner report said Dell EMC, HPE, Huawei and Lenovo posted declines in server share based on shipments in Q4 2018. Inspur experienced the strongest growth with 24.6 percent increase in shipments in the fourth quarter of 2018.

The annual report of Huawei said the sales revenue of Huawei’s enterprise business rose 23.8 percent to CNY74.4 billion or $11.07 billion.
Huawei revenue details 2018Huawei launched 160 cloud services and 140 solutions, and worked with its partners to serve customers worldwide with 40 availability zones across 23 regions.

Huawei has grown its list of partners to more than 6,000 in this domain, and is exploring the use of its AI services in more than 200 projects across 10 major industries.

Huawei has deep insight into the challenges confronting the intelligent transformation of data centers. Huawei Intelligent Computing acts upon this insight by deploying its R&D initiatives on three fronts: intelligent acceleration engine, intelligent management engine, and innovative data center solution.

Huawei has upgraded its x86-based traditional servers to intelligent servers. Huawei provides tiered solutions covering the single-node, large-scale, and ultra-large-scale deployment scenarios, perfectly addressing the intelligent transformation requirements of data centers from multiple dimensions.

Huawei has launched the Ascend 310/910 AI chipsets in October 2018 and Kunpeng 920 ARM-based CPU in January 2019.

“These core chipsets boost Huawei’s intelligent computing offerings: the Atlas AI computing platform and TaiShan series servers. The broadened product portfolio covers the Cloud-Edge-Device scenarios, meeting diversified computing requirements,” Huawei said in a statement on Monday.

Huawei Intelligent Computing is advancing the computing industry with its x86 FusionServer Pro, TaiShan ARM-based servers, and the Ascend-powered Atlas products. Huawei is well positioned to drive the intelligent transformation of data centers for customers and facilitate industry transformation.

Gartner also said Huawei ranks No. 1 for multiple consecutive quarters both by shipments of blade servers and four-socket servers in the Chinese market. All these statistics well manifest the prowess and strength of Huawei Intelligent Computing.

Kiyomi Yamada, senior principal analyst at Gartner. “Technology product managers for server providers should prepare for continued increases in server demand through 2019 to exploit data center infrastructure market disruption.”

Gartner suggests that product managers should market higher memory content servers to take advantage of DRAM oversupplies.
 
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