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SamuraiBlue said:
They do not require flight training like manned operated counterparts. One of the most costly part of operating a CVBG.
With less usage of the air frame they require less maintenance again one of the costly portion of operating a CVBG.
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Umm, you do need to train the people operating the drones, don't you?

and how is the drone carrier supposed to be cheaper? It's probably not going to be that much smaller than a manned carrier of the same size.

and again, how is Japan supposed to pay for a drone carrier ( and if it's going to operate alongside land based manned aircraft, ditch the carrier)
 
SamuraiBlue

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Skywatcher said:
Umm, you do need to train the people operating the drones, don't you?

and how is the drone carrier supposed to be cheaper? It's probably not going to be that much smaller than a manned carrier of the same size.

and again, how is Japan supposed to pay for a drone carrier ( and if it's going to operate alongside land based manned aircraft, ditch the carrier)
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In which you can do most of it on a simulator for drones.
The reason behind actual training on a fighter is because you cannot simulate the g-force in combat condition which the body must get used to to enable the actual treacherous act of maneuvering the craft, targeting the enemy, and shoot.
The pilot of drones does not need to endure those kind of situations so piloting a simulator and piloting an actual drone will be virtually the same so to put a drone in the sky is not required most of the time.
 
Jura The idiot

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LOL now my private challenge was what class is the Kirishima; I correctly thought the Kongo, but could've just read the caption of the picture inside
Ronald Reagan CSG ships train with Japanese destroyer
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Forward-deployed ships from the US Navy’s Ronald Reagan carrier strike group (CSG) started bilateral training with Japan Maritime Self Defense destroyer JS Kirishima on August 14.

The exercise is also joined by Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) personnel from the Commander, Escort Division (CCD) 6 embarked aboard Ronald Reagan started bilateral training.

CSG units and JMSDF units worked together and participated in an air defense exercise, communication evolutions, and provided support for aircraft squadrons embarked aboard the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76).

“Working side by side we have used this opportunity to train together to further streamline our communications through exercises and other tactical events,” said Lt. Jeff Kryski, Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 15’s assistant planning officer.

While embarked aboard Ronald Reagan and the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam (CG 54), CSG and CCD 6 personnel conducted unit level training to increase interoperability between US Navy and JMSDF units and improve the tactical skills of both maritime forces.

“Having CCD 6 personnel aboard greatly benefits both JMSDF and DESRON 15 by allowing both sides to continue our strong and lasting partnership,” said Kryski.
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SamuraiBlue said:
In which you can do most of it on a simulator for drones.
The reason behind actual training on a fighter is because you cannot simulate the g-force in combat condition which the body must get used to to enable the actual treacherous act of maneuvering the craft, targeting the enemy, and shoot.
The pilot of drones does not need to endure those kind of situations so piloting a simulator and piloting an actual drone will be virtually the same so to put a drone in the sky is not required most of the time.
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You do realize that training costs for say, F/A-18E/F pilots, don't really factor into the outfitting and purchase of an aircraft carrier and its air wing (to belabor the painfully obvious, training pilots falls under the O&M section of the budget, not Acquisitions or R&D)?

What you do need to do is have room on the drone carrier for all that mess of people who will maintain the drone and provide all the logistical/operational support needed to operate it, and that's assuming that you can justify paying billions and billions for a carrier to fly drones for supporting land based manned aircraft.
 
SamuraiBlue

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Skywatcher said:
You do realize that training costs for say, F/A-18E/F pilots, don't really factor into the outfitting and purchase of an aircraft carrier and its air wing (to belabor the painfully obvious, training pilots falls under the O&M section of the budget, not Acquisitions or R&D)?

What you do need to do is have room on the drone carrier for all that mess of people who will maintain the drone and provide all the logistical/operational support needed to operate it, and that's assuming that you can justify paying billions and billions for a carrier to fly drones for supporting land based manned aircraft.
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And you do realize that training and maintenance are one of the most costly requirements in operating a CVBG which was the original discussion?
As for R&D of drones, read the link;

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It's a dated report on JASDF research on the matter .
Consider how much they have accomplished after 14 years in R&D.
The present Izumo or Kaga can be converted easily to accommodate the TACOM type drones.
They may become more larger in size to be armed with two SRAAM and maybe guns but that would not make it bigger than any manned fixed wing fighter.
As for number of maintenance personnel, it will not become more then triple the amount of present personnel that are presently stationed handling helicopters. The number includes the personnel who will manage ground operation in preparing the drones on the launch pads for launch and retrieval.
 
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Japan withdraws PAC-3 missile interceptors as North Korea-related tensions ease....

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Jura The idiot

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now noticed (the Republic of Korea) Navy mulls possibility of operating F-35B aboard new amphibious assault ship
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South Korea's Navy has put up a public notice of tender for a research project to explore the possibility of operating F-35B stealth aircraft aboard its amphibious landing ship, officials said Friday.

Last Friday, the Navy initiated the tender through an electronic defense procurement system of the state-run Defense Acquisition Program Administration, citing moves by neighboring countries to consider running F-38Bs aboard their warships.

The project seeks to study the possible remodeling of the country's 14,000-ton Dokdo-class vessel to host the F-35B fighter, a short takeoff and vertical landing variant of the U.S.-made fifth-generation warplane. The research is set to end by Dec. 15.

Observers speculated that the Navy might seek to run the F-35B on the Marado warship that is currently under construction and slated to be deployed in 2020.

The existing Dokdo ship is seen as capable of operating only transport helicopters because its deck is not made of materials that can withstand high temperatures caused by fighter jet operations.

In 2014, Seoul decided to purchase 40 F-35A fighters for deployment from 2018 through 2021 at a cost of 7.3 trillion won (US$6.4 billion). The F-35A is the fighter's air force variant, while the F-35B and F-35C are for marines and aircraft carrier-based operations, respectively.

There has been speculation that Seoul may consider introducing several F-35Bs as it may have to purchase additional warplanes due to a shortage of warplanes that could occur in the coming years with the decommissioning of F-4s and F-5s.

Japanese media have reported that Tokyo's Maritime Self-Defense Force is considering purchasing F-35Bs for its large escort ships.
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