J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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siegecrossbow

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Video of the plane doing a climb:

[video=youtube;Pzh3rlqeyIw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzh3rlqeyIw&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
 

A.Man

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Few Moves Of J-20

[video]http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk1MzI4ODQ4.html[/video]

[video]http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk1MzM1MDIw.html[/video]
 

franco-russe

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Reproduced Defense Commentary: China's first aircraft carrier platform, the mystery of the engine


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Phoenix Military Defense Commentary August 15 August 14, China's first aircraft carrier platform successfully completed the first sea trials, this is a landmark event with. Chinese aircraft carrier platform trials successfully, that the aircraft carrier power plant basically been solved. However, China's first aircraft carrier to use what force platform, is still a huge mystery. "Kuznetsov" was bought by the Chinese before, there is the legend that the aircraft's power system has been dismantled together Western and Ukrainian. "Kuznetsov" was from the Ukraine towards the whole of China is relying on the tug, slowly sailed on the ten thousand sea miles to arrive at the destination, the level of hardship can be imagined. As the ship lacks its own power, the Turkish side had refused their order through the Black Sea straits. According to the original design, "Kuznetsov" was used in the four 50 000-horsepower steam turbines, to ensure that its speed can exceed 30 knots. Such power is also used for "modern" class destroyers, which uses two 50,000-horsepower steam turbine. That, "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier power plant is the double of the "modern" class destroyers. If China imports such a large ship engines in the international events is not able to confidentiality, so you can rule out the possibility of re-imported from Ukraine. The Chinese-made ship with the original steam turbine, have not been able to reach this level, 051 series of destroyers equipped with the steam turbine are about 25000-36000 horsepower. Therefore, China's first aircraft carrier platform using the engine, if we adopt the domestic power system, can only be a new development. On the other hand, a huge volume of steam turbine, usually ships into the water before the installation is completed, replace the power system if you must re-enter a large dock for the "surgery." "Kuznetsov" was coming to China although the dock has been repaired, but moved in "major operation" signs. In addition, a separate waste vessel for the development of high-horsepower engine, does not seem reasonable. Therefore, there may be another historical truth! That is, "Kuznetsov" was the engine has been retained. Part of the memoir has pointed out, "Kuznetsov" was launched, the entire drive conventional steam turbines and has been placed inside. More images in accordance with the words, is already on the position of the engine, but no mounting screws. According to the follow-up memories, "Kuznetsov" was the power plant before the sale of China, met with Ukraine's "removal." But this "removal" was very subtle, in the end is all clean "demolition"? Or just remove some parts? As the huge volume of steam turbine, the so-called "complete removal of power system" is almost impossible, coupled with lack of funds and skilled workers at Ukraine, it may be just "cope with errands," like some parts removed, not even achieve the basic damage. Therefore, the "Kuznetsov" was restored power systems have adequate conditions. As the Chinese navy, "modern" class destroyers and the power system, "Kuznetsov" was a homologous series, which has a reliable repair at the reference object, if necessary, import or production of some of the equipment parts on their own, without having to import complete steam turbine. "Kuznetsov" was after so many years of restoration work, restoration of the number one focus is likely to focus on the power system. In fact, both China successfully developed its own self-healing, or that high-powered steam turbines in the technology sector are huge achievements. Although the steam turbine as advanced gas turbines, but for tens of thousands of tons of large ships, however, it solved the problem of power system availability, and for the continued development of China's large warships provided valuable technical accumulation. (Phoenix Military Defense Commentary Tao Mu sword)
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I am afraid that the estimated A. Man misplaced this quote, which belongs in the carrier thread. It makes a lot of sence on the propulsion issue, though.

Perhaps not everyone is aware that “modern” destroyers is the Chinese translation of SOVREMENNYY which does mean modern (or litterally contemporary). And Pr. 956 does indeed have half the engine plant of the KUZNETSOV class, but basically the same.
 

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youtube videos for those of you too scared to go on Chinese websites:

[video=youtube;INGTSrGaYJw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INGTSrGaYJw&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

...Zhuhai 2012? :D
 

kyanges

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We can see some nice deflection on the canards. I'm just glad that it's finally doing more than cruising around, lol.
 

siegecrossbow

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We can see some nice deflection on the canards. I'm just glad that it's finally doing more than cruising around, lol.

I am willing to bet that the J-20 did something similar a while back. The only problem is that it was flying at too high an altitude for people on the ground to film it.
 
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