Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
What do you mean, absorb the current one? FYI, China is providing Pakistan batch kits to assemble the JF17 including the avionics, and radar. There is no tech transfer of the avionics. Pakistan won't "absorb" anything except building some sections of the air frame.
Provide some proof that Pakistan is "absorbing" the CHINESE avionics/radar! Or stop adding to the b.s. in this thread again. Last time, you guys B.S.ed that Pakistan can re-engineer the FC1 to fit a Western engine, without any proof whatsoever!
Stop the B.S!!
It would be better if you keep the BS BS BS part to yourself and have a decent civilized discussion.
Absorb the current one means, to induct the first batch of JF-17s, get used to them, get to know, get to know the capability of the machine, the problems, the deficiencies, areas for improvement and then go back to the drawing board if need arises and redesign it. As per many reliable sources, the design of JF-17 has been frozen till the 150 mark. After that, will be seen if further design and improvements required or not.
And again telling, that JF-17 was designed with keeping in mind a future possible engine change if required, as Russian may give us problem, China knows that too, that is why they have gone for the manufacturing of WS-13 engine. Pakistan & China are both partners in this program, and China knows what are our limitations and problems in regard for engines, so they must have discussed the possibility of a future engine change and both will work onto it, if in case such an event comes. But as for now the Russians have given assurances and a more powerful variant is expected from them, PAF is no mood for an engine change. Western is out of question for now and in near future also. So for PAF Russian and Chinese engines both will work perfectly, and PAF is happy for now.
And now as for airframe, PAC will manufacture some parts of the JF-17 for now and will gradually increase the airframe production to 100% in 2-3 years time period. Similarly, avionics part would also be increased with the passing time. It may not be a ToT by Chinese in the avionics field, but a ToPT would surely be there, plus except for first 50, the next batch avionics is not confirmed yet. Reports of french avionics deal is in the air and picture will get cleared in the next few months time period. So if PAF goes for french deal, we won;t be needing Chinese ToT for just 50 airframes avionics.
Would end with a note that there is no need to get emotional and start using derogatory remarks, JF-17 is a modular design, and it was made with an understanding by both China and Pakistan that both can use whatever they want in their version of FC-1/JF-17 as per their requirement and it includes avionics and engine both.
Just for a small example, check out the FC-1 Pt#06 and see the difference in the antennas on the upper body and under the nose compared to the JF-17 Pt#04. Both are different communication equipment. JF-17 uses western ones, while the Chinese FC-1 Pt-06 has Chinese communication equipment.
