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azn_cyniq

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It's about ad revenue, US companies are the biggest ad purchasers, a ban in the US will likely stop them from advertising on TT worldwide, that's the killing blow.

If the US goes for secondary sanction, then even non US companies with business in the US would stop advertising on TT.
India banning TikTok was also a big blow for Bytedance. However, the sudden disappearance of Indian users was one of the best things to ever happen to TikTok. Like I said, Douyin is only used by one country and the content on there is phenomenal. The rest of the world will be fine without American users.
 

plawolf

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It's about ad revenue, US companies are the biggest ad purchasers, a ban in the US will likely stop them from advertising on TT worldwide, that's the killing blow.

If the US goes for secondary sanction, then even non US companies with business in the US would stop advertising on TT.

Yes, TT will survive in some non English spreaking and non Western markets, but they're small in comparison for TT.

You are putting the horse in front of the cart. Companies pay TT to advertise to get exposure for their products, not out of charity.

If a ban takes place but everyone in America still uses TT anyways (just look at prohibition and current US illegal drug use statistics to see how well bans work to get people to give up on things they want to do), American companies will become even more uncompetitive in their own markets compared to foreign rivals who do advertise on TT.

The only way America can actually do serious damage to Bytedance is if it places secondary sanctions in place on top of a ban. Secondary sanctions are nothing like a ban, and as far as I am aware, are not in the bill and on the cards, in the short term at least. If America is loony toon enough to try secondary sanctions, then it will be full spectrum economic nuclear war with China as China absolutely will not allow such a precedent to be set unopposed.
 

FriedButter

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Sad state of my Alma Mater…

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But what starts here probably will change the world.

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FriedButter

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Trump plans to sanction countries for refusing to use dollar​

Economic aides to former US President Donald Trump are looking for options to stop countries from shifting away from the US dollar as it faces a growing challenge from emerging markets, including BRICS nations, Bloomberg reported on Friday.

The presumptive Republican nominee for the November presidential election and his team are discussing penalties against both allies and adversaries who seek to divert their trade from the greenback to other currencies. The options could include export controls, currency manipulation charges, and tariffs, the outlet said, citing people familiar with the matter.

The global trend toward using national currencies in trade instead of the dollar gained significant momentum after Russia was cut off from the Western financial system and had its foreign reserves frozen in 2022, as part of Ukraine-related sanctions.

A bill with provisions authorizing the US to confiscate frozen Russian assets, which Biden signed on Wednesday, could further spur de-dollarization, financial experts have warned. The so-called REPO Act, which was incorporated in the $61 billion military aid package for Kiev, authorized the US president to seize Russian state assets held in American banks.

As quoted by Bloomberg, Trump warned on Thursday that with US President Joe Biden, “you’re going to lose the dollar as the standard. That’ll be like losing the biggest war we’ve ever lost.”

According to the news agency, Trump’s economic advisers and his campaign team have specifically considered curbing de-dollarization efforts by BRICS countries.

The group – which recently expanded and now comprises Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Ethiopia, Iran, Egypt – is boosting the use of national currencies in mutual trade. It has even signaled the possibility of introducing a new single currency in the coming years.

Trump has repeatedly said that he wants the dollar to remain the world’s reserve currency.
“I hate when countries go off the dollar,” Trump told CNBC in March. “I would not allow countries to go off the dollar because when we lose that standard, that will be like losing a revolutionary war,” he said, adding that it would be a “hit” for the US.
 

zbb

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You are putting the horse in front of the cart. Companies pay TT to advertise to get exposure for their products, not out of charity.

If a ban takes place but everyone in America still uses TT anyways (just look at prohibition and current US illegal drug use statistics to see how well bans work to get people to give up on things they want to do), American companies will become even more uncompetitive in their own markets compared to foreign rivals who do advertise on TT.

The only way America can actually do serious damage to Bytedance is if it places secondary sanctions in place on top of a ban. Secondary sanctions are nothing like a ban, and as far as I am aware, are not in the bill and on the cards, in the short term at least. If America is loony toon enough to try secondary sanctions, then it will be full spectrum economic nuclear war with China as China absolutely will not allow such a precedent to be set unopposed.
Speaking of secondary sanctions, I've always wondered why China doesn't impose secondary sanctions on anti-China media (both MSM and social media), particularly Taiwanese pro-independence media outlets.
 

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imagine if you were a natsec guy who had all your 401k and retirement funds in funds that are supposed to profit from a China collapse… this kinda stuff gives these people haemorrhoids.
US teens will lose interest quickly if VPN is required.
uh no, you obviously never had the college experience of using vpns to watch streaming shows in other countries, let alone getting access to such entertainment.
Besides, once it's banned in the USA, ad revenue from US companies will dry up instantly, as I imagine the ban will apply to advertising on TT.

Without ad revenue, the business model is dead even if US users keep using it via VPN.

Without US content creators, the rest of the world would slowly lose interest too and TT will eventually die off.
A precedent has now been set where all nations can pull an India and ban Facebook and whatsapp or force those companies to nationalise or be sold for pennies on the dollar to local oligarchs.

Your post is not just disingenuous, it’s wish casting. Tiktok isn’t just composed of US creators unless your TikTok feed is twerking and peeping on 12 year olds. I watch TikTok in Australia and there’s plenty of Aussie creators on TikTok as well. The world isn’t america, as much as navel gazing Americans would wish it. We’re not in the 90s anymore. Advertisers arent automatically going to run back to faceberg just cuz he managed to bribe senators into a TikTok ban and if Americans watching TikTok on the sky aren’t being exposed to American ads, they’ll be exposed to Chinese ads, promoting Chinese products which they will buy, pouring more money into China. look At the impulse buys from girls on shein, Temu and TikTok. That’s money not going to Facebook and it makes white Americans rage.
Can the Chinese market replace the Western market for SK companies? My guess is no, so SK will understandably toe the line of Washington, while trying not to upset China too much, a tough balancing act indeed.
Who cares? If SK can’t compete globally, no matter what infinitesimal market access the Americans give them, theyll die anyhow. Whatever fraction of americas 350mln market SK gets will be nothin compared to China’s market of 1.4bln and its billions plus associates in BRI. The strong do what they wish, the weak suffer what they must.
This guy is on suicide watch. I'm sure browsing weibo will cheer him up ;)
kinda amusing all of these CIA sock puppet accounts are also overwhelmingly pro Israel. What are the chances? Looks like it’s not just USG which is already highly Jewish but also the intelligence services as well.
 
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daifo

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You are putting the horse in front of the cart. Companies pay TT to advertise to get exposure for their products, not out of charity.

If a ban takes place but everyone in America still uses TT anyways (just look at prohibition and current US illegal drug use statistics to see how well bans work to get people to give up on things they want to do), American companies will become even more uncompetitive in their own markets compared to foreign rivals who do advertise on TT.

The only way America can actually do serious damage to Bytedance is if it places secondary sanctions in place on top of a ban. Secondary sanctions are nothing like a ban, and as far as I am aware, are not in the bill and on the cards, in the short term at least. If America is loony toon enough to try secondary sanctions, then it will be full spectrum economic nuclear war with China as China absolutely will not allow such a precedent to be set unopposed.

The bill penalize Americans companies hosting tiktok on US soil. The problem is that video would have to traverse from canada/mexico or even further which would make a poor experience anyways. TikTok will likely just block US IPs. People using VPN will have poor experience until many people just give up.

I just hope Douyin/Litte Red Book/Billibilli are excluded from murica racism and i can access with slowdown or vpn.
 

MortyandRick

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US teens will lose interest quickly if VPN is required.

Besides, once it's banned in the USA, ad revenue from US companies will dry up instantly, as I imagine the ban will apply to advertising on TT.

Without ad revenue, the business model is dead even if US users keep using it via VPN.
Do you use TT?
If US bans TT, it is banned in the US. Othe countries will still have TT access and companies can still advertise.

Without US content creators, the rest of the world would slowly lose interest too and TT will eventually die off.

Any data to show that the rest of the world relies on US content? It's mainly the 5 eyes nation that does. That's not the rest of the world
 

daifo

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US teens will lose interest quickly if VPN is required.

Besides, once it's banned in the USA, ad revenue from US companies will dry up instantly, as I imagine the ban will apply to advertising on TT.

Without ad revenue, the business model is dead even if US users keep using it via VPN.

Without US content creators, the rest of the world would slowly lose interest too and TT will eventually die off.

TikTok content isn't 90s/2000s hollywood sfx flicks that no one else is capable of producing. People mostly enjoy watching local content or content with similar culture or racial identity. Muslims overseas watch muslim content or muslims day-of-life living in America, not white american christians complaining about something or how he is making pig bbq lol
 
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