09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

FORBIN

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Not a single SSK can maintain such speeds for any extended period of time, so this still is very different speed.
Problem is, 4th Gen subs reportedly have simillar quiet speeds.
Ofc i have mentionned max speed for to completely precise the more fast SSK Argentinina TR 1700 in a fact a big Type 209 customized do 2200 t is capable 25 kn !
After exact ! also named tactical speed the more fast with a reasonnable noise.

A part of all the subtlety of the tactics for the submarines :cool:
 

tphuang

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Shang capable 26 kn, Han with a wind-broken reactor 25 but in practice seems 22 almost a SSK
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To supply food a SSN as Han or Shang must have an autonomy of 60 - 70 days - the max for giant Oscar, Typhoon 120, Akula 100 days, Ohio 90, all others nuclear 60 - 90 SSK more small 30 - 60 days - and relax sailors also it is not funny to remains 2 month in a canned :)

For SSN homeports even USA or Russia never have units permanently based overseas in foreign countries even SSK only 3 Barbels was based to Sasebo.
Possible during 1960's US SSBNs based to Rota but only for détails.
btw, i wouldn't trust these numbers. Also, I'd be surprised if Shang can't reach 30 knots.
 

davidau

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under cover to build simultaneously 2 nuclear submarines (095/096) etc
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...once the submarine is completed, it can be launched into the water just outside the 'shed'...
 

Hendrik_2000

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Henri K take on the new Huludao facility to build submarine. he said work will be started on new sub before the end of the year. and it willl be launched in 2023. I think he is off here it will be launched earlier than that Oedo web said this After building the seventh vessel this year, production of the 093 A type nuclear submarine is over and we will shift to the new 095 type construction.
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The Type 09V , a new-generation Chinese nuclear attack submarine, falsely called "Type 095" by the majority of media in China and home, is already under construction in the single site Naval nuclear submarines of the country, namely Bohai Shipyard (BSIC)?

Many people think that this is the case, and there are even some who claimed that the first copy has already been launched since the end of 2014.

Without wishing to believe foolishly in the opinion of the other observers, in
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last year ( reserved for
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members ) , we studied the new assembly line for nuclear submarines which is in the process of being Constructed at the BSIC, based on the analysis of tenders for associated works and the history of the development of the nuclear submarine attack of the old generation Type 09III .

We have thus demonstrated that the launch of the construction of the first Type 09V in 2017 is more than plausible - knowing that the start of the development of this program dates back to 2012 - and that the new facility allows to build in parallel three more submarines Of 9 meters in diameter.

If the same study used previously is used and the results are combined with the latest satellite images, there is every reason to believe that the construction of the first Type 09V would not yet have taken place, even if it will not be long.

According to
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published on the site of the Chinese shipbuilder CSIC, the parent company of the BSIC shipyard, the 716 Institute recently won a contract to supply LED lamps dedicated to lighting "factories over 20 meters high ".

And we know that the new pressurized section production workshop and the paint shop, both belonging to the new nuclear underlay assembly line, are 32.91 meters and 21.10 meters tall respectively.

This amounts to saying that neither of them would still have all their lighting inside.

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Inside the new production workshops more than 20 meters high (Photos: CSIC)

If this is not enough to confirm that these two main workshops are not yet operational, reading the new calls for tenders launched in March shows that some acquisition projects have only just begun for this same supply chain, assembly.

Examples include:

  • The copper electrical connection bars for the pressurized section production workshop
  • Calculation servers
  • The prime contractor for the modification of 66kV wiring outside
  • Certification and audit of certain completed work
There is also a call for tender for the sliding doors of the "anechoic tile shop" or for the purchase of CNC machines, but it is not known whether this concerns the new assembly line.

All this shows that the work is not quite finished, but is nearing the end.

On the other hand, the satellite images dated 17 February 2017 also show that roads connecting the various buildings and workshops to the new BSIC production area are not all in place, and some buildings are still under construction.

This situation therefore remains in line with the elements revealed above.

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The satellite image of the new production area of the BSIC shipyard on 17 February 2017 (Image: Global Digital)

From this it can be deduced that the new nuclear submarine assembly line at the BSIC is not yet operational, and therefore the construction of the first Type 09V, or even the first Type 09VI SNLE , could not start here. But it could still start before the end of 2017, if our estimate is correct.

It should be noted that the first copy of Type 09V should be launched in the artificial basin, which can be seen next to the red tanker at the bottom left of the top image, around 2023 approximately , And its admission to active service by 2025.

All that is known about this new class of Chinese nuclear attack submarine is that it will be equipped with a new nuclear reactor with natural convection circulation, a single / double mixed pressurized shell and d A vertical launch system, if one believes in several official documents made public.

To be continued.

Henri K.

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Guys ... I just deleted about 20 posts concerning the basing of nuclear subs in Pakistan, if the Pakistan Navy will acquire such ships too and other issues about Pakistani-vs-Indian Navy ! That's irrelevant to this topic !

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J16B MRF

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Henri K take on the new Huludao facility to build submarine. he said work will be started on new sub before the end of the year. and it willl be launched in 2023. I think he is off here it will be launched earlier than that Oedo web said this After building the seventh vessel this year, production of the 093 A type nuclear submarine is over and we will shift to the new 095 type construction.
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The Type 09V , a new-generation Chinese nuclear attack submarine, falsely called "Type 095" by the majority of media in China and home, is already under construction in the single site Naval nuclear submarines of the country, namely Bohai Shipyard (BSIC)?

Many people think that this is the case, and there are even some who claimed that the first copy has already been launched since the end of 2014.

Without wishing to believe foolishly in the opinion of the other observers, in
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last year ( reserved for
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members ) , we studied the new assembly line for nuclear submarines which is in the process of being Constructed at the BSIC, based on the analysis of tenders for associated works and the history of the development of the nuclear submarine attack of the old generation Type 09III .

We have thus demonstrated that the launch of the construction of the first Type 09V in 2017 is more than plausible - knowing that the start of the development of this program dates back to 2012 - and that the new facility allows to build in parallel three more submarines Of 9 meters in diameter.

If the same study used previously is used and the results are combined with the latest satellite images, there is every reason to believe that the construction of the first Type 09V would not yet have taken place, even if it will not be long.

According to
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published on the site of the Chinese shipbuilder CSIC, the parent company of the BSIC shipyard, the 716 Institute recently won a contract to supply LED lamps dedicated to lighting "factories over 20 meters high ".

And we know that the new pressurized section production workshop and the paint shop, both belonging to the new nuclear underlay assembly line, are 32.91 meters and 21.10 meters tall respectively.

This amounts to saying that neither of them would still have all their lighting inside.

2017-04-12-La-Chine-d%C3%A9marre-la-construction-de-Type-09V-02.jpg


2017-04-12-La-Chine-d%C3%A9marre-la-construction-de-Type-09V-03.jpg

Inside the new production workshops more than 20 meters high (Photos: CSIC)

If this is not enough to confirm that these two main workshops are not yet operational, reading the new calls for tenders launched in March shows that some acquisition projects have only just begun for this same supply chain, assembly.

Examples include:

  • The copper electrical connection bars for the pressurized section production workshop
  • Calculation servers
  • The prime contractor for the modification of 66kV wiring outside
  • Certification and audit of certain completed work
There is also a call for tender for the sliding doors of the "anechoic tile shop" or for the purchase of CNC machines, but it is not known whether this concerns the new assembly line.

All this shows that the work is not quite finished, but is nearing the end.

On the other hand, the satellite images dated 17 February 2017 also show that roads connecting the various buildings and workshops to the new BSIC production area are not all in place, and some buildings are still under construction.

This situation therefore remains in line with the elements revealed above.

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The satellite image of the new production area of the BSIC shipyard on 17 February 2017 (Image: Global Digital)

From this it can be deduced that the new nuclear submarine assembly line at the BSIC is not yet operational, and therefore the construction of the first Type 09V, or even the first Type 09VI SNLE , could not start here. But it could still start before the end of 2017, if our estimate is correct.

It should be noted that the first copy of Type 09V should be launched in the artificial basin, which can be seen next to the red tanker at the bottom left of the top image, around 2023 approximately , And its admission to active service by 2025.

All that is known about this new class of Chinese nuclear attack submarine is that it will be equipped with a new nuclear reactor with natural convection circulation, a single / double mixed pressurized shell and d A vertical launch system, if one believes in several official documents made public.

To be continued.

Henri K.

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Everything just going on in the pace of early develop plan that has been ensured years ago.No hasty sweat but just steady advances.Hum this feeling must be fantastic,I think!
 

Hendrik_2000

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looks like Kyle recompiled your posts into an article. he should donate to SinoDefence :p

"those people" just copy copy copy :p

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I think he copied it from Jeffrey Lin blog and we know he is our Skywatcher. It is okay if it contribute to better appreciation and respect of Chinese defense industry. Though as usual they regurgitate and quote ONI noise chart which is nothing more than guesstimate since they haven't builf typ 95 YET. so how can they measure the noise
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