PLAN Sovremenny DDG 136, 137, 138 & 139 Thread

[Iron Man]

052D uses the 24-cell variant, while the Liaoning uses the 18-cell variant. The Sovs will probably use the 24-cell variant.

 

[Jeff Head]

Are the 18-cell or 24-cell HQ-10 variants even fitted to any PLAN warships? I've only seen the 8-cell variant.

The carrier, CV-16, Liaoning has the larger one, and the Type 052Ds all have the larger ones.

 

[antiterror13]

052D uses the 24-cell variant, while the Liaoning uses the 18-cell variant. The Sovs will probably use the 24-cell variant.

what is the cost diff between 18 and 24-cell ? Also how much heavier the 24-cell than 18-cell

 

[Iron Man]

Most if not almost all of the increased cost will be from the missiles themselves, which I have no idea how much they cost. RAM costs about $1,000,000 per missile, so I would think that the HHQ-10 should be somewhere in that neighborhood. As for the weight difference, it's anyone's guess.

 

[antiterror13]

Most if not almost all of the increased cost will be from the missiles themselves, which I have no idea how much they cost. RAM costs about $1,000,000 per missile, so I would think that the HHQ-10 should be somewhere in that neighborhood. As for the weight difference, it's anyone's guess.

I'd be very surprised if the cost of HHQ-10 missile close to $1M ... I thought would be roughly $100 to $200K

 

[Jeff Head]

Guns remains interesting with rounds more cheapers in big qty

FYI, I got a 1/350 scale 139 Ningbo and am converting it per the conversion going on now for the 136.

I will have sixteen VLS for and aft, with eight more VLS at the 2nd tire fore.. Will also put on the two 1130 CIWS and the forward 24 cell HHQ10 CIWS system.

SO, there will be 32 cells for AAW, eight canister launched ASMs and eight VLS launched ASMs,plus the two CIWS guns and the HHQ10.

Also will fit it with the appropriate sensors.

I expect all four of the Sovs are going to get this treatment.

They will be more heavily armed and defended than the Type 054A/B frigates, but not as heavily armed as the Type 052Ds.

Still, this upgrade will add another 10-15 years of relevance to them.

I will have a thread on that build here on SD soon.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Still no image update on the 136/137 upgrades? They are being more secretive on them than the 055

 

[cacao86]

Still no image update on the 136/137 upgrades? They are being more secretive on them than the 055

136 Hangzhou

 

[Jeff Head]

@FORBIN @bd popeye @Obi Wan Russell @Jura @Air Force Brat ...progress!

 

[steve_rolfe]

Looking at the last image posted of the updates to the SOV........shows that the main gun has been removed. Now looking at CGI images of the expected upgrades, and from the model makers expectation of the upgraded SOV, as per "Jeff.H's" model shows the original gun in place. My question if the Chinese intend to keep the main gun, why remove it while rest of ship is being upgraded?..........or do the Chinese naval planners have in mind fitting a newer Chinese main gun, as fitted to the 052D class?