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jobjed said:
Interesting theory popped up. Three Somali pirates may have been left aboard OS 35 while the rest of the group fled as Chinese VBSS closed in. If they were captured, why didn't China say anything? And if not captured, where the hell are these three pirates?
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Bltizo said:
The original source of it seems to be from VOA... and while I'm not going to immediately discount everything they write, in my experience VOA (along with RFA and RFE/L) to tends to allow greater degrees of speculation than other, private US news media.

So while it's possible that this Aw Koombe may have been captured, it may be possible that it's just a mix up of reporting + speculation. If he was actually captured then it's a bit curious as to why it may not have been yet stated by the Navy, though it could just be this is the first time the Chinese Navy has apprehended someone in a manner like this and are playing it safe in terms of media? I don't know.
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Wow, looks like it's real.

They were sure quiet about it, and seems like they were kept at sea for quite a few weeks in that case.


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Chinese navy hands over three pirates to Somali authorities

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| BOSASSO, SOMALIA
A Chinese navy ship handed over three suspected pirates to Somali authorities on Friday, police said, underscoring the determination of international naval forces to stamp out a resurgence of piracy this year.

The pirates were involved in the attempted hijacking in April of the OS35, a Tuvalu-flagged cargo ship that was rescued by the Chinese navy after the crew sent a distress call.

"A Chinese navy ship handed over three pirates to Puntland today," said Ahmed Saiid, the deputy director of maritime police forces in the semi-autonomous northern region of Puntland.

The pirates handed to the Puntland authorities included a local pirate leader known as Aw Kombe, he said.

In their heyday in 2011, Somali pirates launched 237 attacks off the coast of Somalia and held hundreds of hostages, the International Maritime Bureau said.

That year, the Ocean's Beyond Piracy aid group estimated the global cost of piracy at about $7 billion. The shipping industry bore roughly 80 percent of those costs, the group said.

Attacks fell sharply after ship owners tightened security and avoided the Somali coast. But they have risen again this year and the U.S. navy said it believes the spike is partly driven by severe drought in the Horn of Africa nation.



(writing by Clement Uwiringiyaimana; Editing by Tom Heneghan)


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Blitzo

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the three seem awfully chipper

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Chinese Navy Hands Over Notorious Pirate Leader

The Chinese navy on Friday handed over a notorious pirate leader captured last month after a failed hijack attempt.

Abdikarim Salah "Aw Koombe" and two other pirates are now in the custody of Puntland security officials at the Red Sea port of Bosaso.

The three, who were in handcuffs and wearing flotation jackets, were brought to the port in small rubber boats.

Colonel Yasin Ali Nur, commander of security forces at Bosaso port, told VOA Somali reporter Fadumo Yasin Jama, the three will be tried on piracy-related charges.

"These three prisoners, their weapons, will be kept here at the prison at the port until they are transferred to the central prison, until they appear before a court," Nur said.

Dozens of hijackings

One of the three prisoners was involved in up to 26 hijackings, said Abdimajid Samatar, director of Regional Ministry of Ports and Marine Transport which overseas anti-piracy activities in Puntland. It's believed Samatar was referring to Aw Koombe.

The pirates attacked the Tuvalu-flagged ship on April 8 off Socorta Island. The crew had locked themselves in a safe room making it impossible for the pirates to steer the ship toward the Somali shores.

Chinese and Indian navy ships reached the scene and rescued the ship.

Pirate leader Aw Koombe spoke candidly about what happened on the ship in an exclusive interview with VOA after his handover by the Chinese navy.

He told VOA that three of them boarded the ship in an attempt to hijack it. He said they ran into difficulties after the crew locked themselves in the safety room.

To avoid being captured by Chinese crewmen who were deployed on the ship by helicopter, Aw Koombe said he and the two others hid on the ship.

"I was sleeping 12 hours throughout the night. The next day, they [the Chinese navy] heard a bit a of noise. They find out where we were hiding, then they apprehended us," he said.

"I’m back home, the sight is pleasant, my mind is good, I'm back with my people, I'm not missing anything," he said.

Poverty blamed

Aw Koombe is a well-known pirate leader who authorities say was involved in many maritime attacks against ships over the years. But, in a VOA interview, he denied being involved in any other attacks.

Asked what drove him to try to hijack this ship, he said: "Whatever reasons that were given ... poverty. Is there any other reason?"

A report released this week by the maritime group Oceans Beyond Piracy said declining vigilance is giving pirates an opening to renew their attacks on ships traveling near the Somalian coast.

The report said after several years of decreased pirate activity, ships are sailing closer to shore and the number of naval vessels patrolling the waters near Somalia has dropped.

Fadumo Yasin Jama contributed to this report from Bosaso, Somalia.
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plawolf

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Bltizo said:
the three seem awfully chipper

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The fact that the Chinese boarding party deployed via helicopter further underscores my previous suspicion that the Indian Navy contributed absolutely nothing to the operation.

The Chinese had their own helicopter on station during he operation, so there was zero need for the Indian helicopter.

The fact there were still pirates onboard also makes the Indian Navy's decision to tell the crew to leave their safe rooms even more stupid and dangerous for all involved in the actual rescue operation.

Had the crew ran into the pirates as the Chinese boarding team was deploying, it would have made the situation significant more dangerous and hard to resolve successfully by the Chinese teams.

If one was feeling uncharitable (or charitable depending on your prospective), one might even suspect the Indians of trying to deliberately sabotage the Chinese op, as it's hard to credit any professional military officer making such a nonsensical decision as to ask unarmed civilians to leave their nice safe panick room before the boarding team had given the all clear. That is as good as trying to gift wrap hostages for the hijackers.

So either the Indian navy was incredibly incompetent, or they were highly malicious in trying to compromise an ongoing Chinese rescue operation.
 
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plawolf said:
So either the Indian navy was incredibly incompetent, or they were highly malicious in trying to compromise an ongoing Chinese rescue operation.
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It's more likely they didn't say anything at all and their media tried desperately to find a narrative where they could share in some of the glory. I trust the Indian military personnel not to make stupid and malicious actions like telling the crew to come out of their safe rooms but I do not trust the Indian media to publish an accurate account of the events. So, it's more likely they published some bullshit about their glorious helicopter "providing cover" for the Chinese VBSS team and "giving an all-clear" whereas, in reality, their helicopter did nothing and said nothing except do a simple flyover of a ship that was already cleared by PLAN personnel.
 
asif iqbal

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I would not be at all surprised if India tried to jeopardise the Chinese recuse

Indian are so critical about others yet refuse to recognise their own short comings very much like white South Africans

When CV17 was launched you should have seen the comments section on social media, Indian were really really ridiculous in their failure to see past their pride

Well done to Chinese professionally handled

The pirates look happy for some reason obviously Chinese treated them too well lol

But that in itself shows professionalism on part of Chinese
 
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jobjed said:
It's more likely they didn't say anything at all and their media tried desperately to find a narrative where they could share in some of the glory. I trust the Indian military personnel not to make stupid and malicious actions like telling the crew to come out of their safe rooms but I do not trust the Indian media to publish an accurate account of the events. So, it's more likely they published some bullshit about their glorious helicopter "providing cover" for the Chinese VBSS team and "giving an all-clear" whereas, in reality, their helicopter did nothing and said nothing except do a simple flyover of a ship that was already cleared by PLAN personnel.
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Your narrative on the Indian Navy anti-piracy operation sounds wrong, because the IN has been part of the international operation for some time, and no doubt gained much experience and expertise. It follows Indian naval assets providing cover isn't unreasonable. The linked news reports say Indian warship coordinated with the CN warship in saving the OS 35 and its crew, so it's only right both China and India get credit for the rescue.
 
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Blackstone said:
Your narrative on the Indian Navy anti-piracy operation sounds wrong, because the IN has been part of the international operation for some time, and no doubt gained much experience and expertise. It follows Indian naval assets providing cover isn't unreasonable. The linked news reports say Indian warship coordinated with the CN warship in saving the OS 35 and its crew, so it's only right both China and India get credit for the good deed.
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It wasn't just the IN ships that coordinated with the PLAN ship, there were ships of other nationalities in the vicinity including Pakistan and they were all in contact with each other when the distress call was heard. What happened after that was the closest ship reached OS 35 and executed a boarding and securing operation, which happened to be a Chinese FFG.

The Indian media reports say their helicopter flew over the OS 35, saw no sign of the pirates
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. Yes, you read that correctly; their media claimed their helicopter crew simply eyeballed the ship and declared 'all clear'. That's blatantly irresponsible, bordering on malicious. No one can declare 'all clear' until a trained, professional VBSS team boards, sweeps, and secures the vessel. If their helicopter crew did actually declare 'all clear' willy nilly, I wish India luck with her endeavours because she'll need it with a military as incompetent as that. Alternatively, we can assume India's helicopter crew didn't do something so stupid and their media made up all the bullshit about "aerial cover" and "all clear signal". Seriously, for their own sake, I hope India's helicopter crew didn't do what their media said they did.
 
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