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Twix101

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Using DSI Intakes permit to reduce maintenance costs, possibly reduce weight (no moving parts means, no valves, no pipes, etc...) you got several advantages with that.

Also, I hope to see better manufacturing of the structure, as we could see on high-res pictures of J-10A quality of structure assembling was variating following a random path... you could see a vintage type assembly beside a good quality assembly, it was like the aircraft had been modified several times (this is what I think). To conclude, it was far away from what you could notice on Western aircrafts like Rafale, Eurofighter, Gripen or ever 80's aircrafts like F-16, Mirage etc...
 

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But seriously, what other small planes have IRSTs? I can think of Rafale, being the smallest plane with one. IF that is true, then J10 would become the owner of that title. PErhaps it is not easy to cram in an IRST onto a small plane, if there isn't space for it planned from its conception.
 

Londo Molari

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-It may or may not have a DSI inlet: Most reports seem to put the J-10B with DSI inlets, I think this is because it looks better, but there are real benefits to the DSI design and China has the technology to do so. My question is why not put a DSI inlet?
Indeed, I don't know why many people seem to hate DSI here. Its advantages are three fold. They remove the need for variable-geometry air intakes, hide front facing engine components from enemy radar, and improve performance at high AoA.
 

crobato

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The supposedly j-10b with the dsi is photoshopped.

That's not a photoshop, that's a CG. The intention of the author was to illustrate what a J-10B might look like. In the business its called an artist conception. I only hope the real thing won't look as aesthetically horrendous.
 

the spectator

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That's not a photoshop, that's a CG. The intention of the author was to illustrate what a J-10B might look like. In the business its called an artist conception. I only hope the real thing won't look as aesthetically horrendous.

There's not even any evidence of a J-10B. There is a J-10S, the trainer version.
 

tphuang

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But seriously, what other small planes have IRSTs? I can think of Rafale, being the smallest plane with one. IF that is true, then J10 would become the owner of that title. PErhaps it is not easy to cram in an IRST onto a small plane, if there isn't space for it planned from its conception.

space is the main issue, it's probably also why they did not have retractable IFR probe. I'm guessing this version might be a little larger, hence the need for higher thrusted engine.
 
But seriously, what other small planes have IRSTs? I can think of Rafale, being the smallest plane with one. IF that is true, then J10 would become the owner of that title. PErhaps it is not easy to cram in an IRST onto a small plane, if there isn't space for it planned from its conception.

Mig-29/35s?

Which also happen to have the most advanced IRST in the world. The J-10 would be the smallest though..
 
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PrOeLiTeZ

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Well actually the extra weight gained from modification on the Mig-35, pushed it to mid-weight class so its no longer a small plane.
 

Twix101

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There's not even any evidence of a J-10B. There is a J-10S, the trainer version.

The J-10S is not the trainer version, it's an 2 seater attack variant ! In my opinion, they have a different philosophy for training, if you look carefully at the time when J-10S made it's first flight (December 2003) and the first regiment being created (August 2004) there is only 8 months, you can't train that much pilot in that less time ! Forgetting that this J-10S prototype was used for development and then making any use for training impossible.

As for CFT's, we could suggest that eventual J-10BS could have them since he's mainly oriented for A2G role.

Also last question, how about wingtip pylon ? It would be useful for J-10 to get a comparable loadout has the F-16.
 
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