Military situation in the sino-indian border

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timepass

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Spot on Plawolf.......

Further to your post, the main question is DO India has the capability to even think of blockade.

We all are very much aware of their Military Hardware, their safety standards, their personnel standards.
Its all media hype nothing else (Balloon with over filled air... ready to burst anytime).

Remember India has history with such actions i.e. Siachin etc.

There is one more school of thought that this all just to destabilize or disturb OBOR.
 

tidalwave

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I can't believe the nonsense I am reading, another one goes on the ignore list then. :rolleyes:

Anyone who think India can mount any sort of blockade on China simply does not grasp the most basic fundamentals of how international trade works.

Chinese flagged ships do not exclusively carry cargo bound to/from China, and a great bulk of China bound cargo is carried on foreign flagged ships.

Even if we ignore the giant question mark of whether India actually has the military capability to enforce a blockade of shipping in the Indian Ocean in the face of PLA opposition, the simple reality of how world trade works means that for India to have any chance of trying to disrupt Chinese trade, they would have to effectively cut off ALL trade through the Indian Ocean.

There is also the inconvenient fact that trade is a two-way street. India attacking Chinese shipping won't just upset China, it will also upset the countries who bought and paid for the goods on those ships, and who's economic and social welfare depend on that trade.

Then it won't be a simple matter of India vs China, it will be India vs the rest of the world.

For a blockade to work, you either need massive political, financial and military capabilities far beyond what India could dream of aspiring to; or you need geographical chock points.

And no, places like the Indian Ocean or Malacca Strait don't work well as chock points against China because of how far away they are from China and how much international trade goes through there.

Unless you want to stop world wide free trade, and have the military power and the political will to fight the rest of the world to do it, you just can't mount an effective blockade of China through those far away chock points.

That is why the US spent all that time and political capital trying to stir things up in the South China Sea - because that would be an ideal place to mount such a blockade against Chinese seaborne trade.

The USN already owns the Indian Ocean, if it was such a simple matter to blockade China through there, why would they have bothered with the SCS? Conversely, if even the USN is looking at the SCS for a far better way to try and threaten Chinese seaborne trade, what makes anyone think the far punier Indian Navy can do any better in the Indian Ocean?

If anything, Indian attempts to threaten Chinese seaborne trade in the Indian Ocaen would actually only serve to give the PLAN the perfect pretext and opportunity to enforce a blockade of Indian seaborne trade.

All the PLAN needs to do is deploy its subs to covertly lay minefields within 200km (not a set-in-stone figure, and can be more or less depending on need and circumstance) of Indian ports. Declare that as necessary to protect international free trade from Indian attacks, and civilian shipping to India simply stops.

International shipping can use the Indian Ocean without disruption by simply staying 200km from the Indian coast so international ire would be limited. Especially since Indian world trade is so tiny in comparison to China.

However, no insurance company would touch any ship wanting to dock at an Indian port because of the mine threat, and without insurance, no skipper would agree to take a freight job to India, especially with a very real mine threat.


Like in the freeway, sheriff doesn't not have the resources to stop every possible violators, he pick and choose on individual ones. Alot of them escaped.

Similarly Indian Navy due to is proximity can easily intercept China flagged ships. It even won't try to stop every china flagged ship. It can pick and choose.

You make it sound as if trying to weep out every single China related ships. It cannot be done.

That itself can have major impact.

About laying mines around indian ports, that's different matter.
 
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tidalwave

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How would US handle this if it's in China' s shoes? Considering how it sponsored Al quaeda and ISIS, against Soviet and Russia, and for regime change in middle east, it most likely look for proxy fighters against indian interest. Probably give money and weapons to groups like lashkar-e-taiba and jaish-e-mohammed to fight Indians at Kashmir or maoist separatists at Indian Eastern state. And turn Nepal, Bangladesh into anti-india country. Of course , draw on the main ally Pakistan.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Because China have too much trade surplus and US knows it has leverage over China. It can pressure China to do things. That's why I say to the other guy depending on exports and having big trade surplus is not a good things. People will arm twisting you for that and know you won't fight back too much for sake of trade surplus
LOL You're an idiot. No country in the world would prefer a trade deficit over a surplus but you want to spin it like having a trade surplus is a weakness? Haha I guess being rich is a great weakness then, cus now you're vulnerable to being robbed whereas poor people have nothing to lose! Being rich is "nothing to be proud of"; being poor is an advantage, right?

I guess the US is full of traitors too; I mean everyone including Trump has been trying to balance the trade with China and reduce the deficit! These guys are all trying to destroy American leverage over China! Oh no! It's a conspiracy! LOLOL You uneducated imbecile...

China cannot plan war ahead without thinking of controlling Indian ocean.

For starter, it needs stealth fighters on Carrier and a fleet of SSN 093b or 095 prowling the ocean along with other surface combatant ships.

Yeah, that's right, when everyone already told you why your standpoint makes no sense and you can't argue with reasoning, just say the whole damn thing over again! Maybe repeating it will make it less stupid this time, right, moron?
 
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timepass

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Probably give money and weapons to groups like lashkar-e-taiba and jaish-e-mohammed to fight Indians at Kashmir .

you need to correct your INFO/Facts....

Movement in Kashmir is a movement of FREEDOM which is from the day of PAK - Indo separation & > 100 thousand innocent people lost their lives for the cause to Indian occupied Forces.

Linking them with proxy wars is the disgrace to there struggle. This is pathetic from the world who don't give the due importance to their struggle despite of UN resolutions. The reasons are well know......
 

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China Fired Rockets on Posts of Indian Army in Sikkim area....

160+ Indian Soldiers Killed Several Injured - Media Report . .

It is to mentioned that China has previously warned Indian army to leave Sikkim sector with dignity and peace itself or China will take the step itself to expel Indian Army from the area . . !

Things between the two states are getting pretty bad .

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China Fired Rockets on Posts of Indian Army in Sikkim area....

160+ Indian Soldiers Killed Several Injured - Media Report . .

It is to mentioned that China has previously warned Indian army to leave Sikkim sector with dignity and peace itself or China will take the step itself to expel Indian Army from the area . . !

Things between the two states are getting pretty bad .

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Wait, WTF, is this real?
 
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