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Viktor Jav said:

It is as Jeff said, far to early to call the F-35 a lemon

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

It's to early to claim a cause. And rather Disgusting to jump out a claim of "Lemon" by critics.
To date this is only the second F35 crash ever. The safety record on this bird has been pretty good.

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Jeff Head said:

Aen Terran.

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Viktor Jav said:

The Japan crash figures the least on the charts, as there was a single fighter had a flawless track record before hand.

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Nearly flawless. There was a B model crash last October, and an engine fire in an A the year before.
Just for the sake of the record.
Otherwise totally agree.
Much of the abuse the F35 takes is as the program is very open the issues get reported in an echo chamber.
The Russians and Chinese don't report on their fighters unless they want propaganda points.
The US government has reported and armed critics like @Jura with their best points of attack. Which should show you how open the program is.

Jura said:

egregious delays, cost overruns, "interesting" sustainment

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But those don't make a lemon just a procurement program that has issues.. A cost overrun doesn't knock fighters from the sky and delays are mostly the result of fixing issues or overruns. Interesting sustainment is because the system they aimed to develop was obsolete before it was ready for service and over ambitious to begin with. Again typical of military IT procurement.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

... A cost overrun doesn't knock fighters from the sky and delays are mostly the result of fixing issues or overruns. Interesting sustainment is because the system they aimed to develop was obsolete before it was ready for service and over ambitious to begin with. Again typical of military IT procurement.

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the word for what you do is (LOL had to check the spelling)
complacency

do you want me to elaborate?

You can feel that way if you wish @Jura but my point stands.
These issues are typical of Military programs. These complaints can be leveled against Stryker, FCS, Comanche, CH53K, EFV, Bradley, Abrams,Ford class, LCS, Seawolf class, Zimwalt class, Burke class, V22, America class, B2, B1, F16, F15 and more so many more. Yet only a few are actually canceled.

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

You can feel that way if you wish @Jura but my point stands.
These issues are typical of Military programs. These complaints can be leveled against Stryker, FCS, Comanche, CH53K, EFV, Bradley, Abrams,Ford class, LCS, Seawolf class, Zimwalt class, Burke class, V22, America class, B2, B1, F16, F15 and more so many more. Yet only a few are actually canceled.

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the last time the F-35 program was in trouble: Nunn–McCurdy breach by F-35B back in 2010

the program is too big to fail, personally I'm surprised the Pentagon isn't throwing much bigger money at it

(ironically I had been reading about the F-16s to fly into the 2040s before I noticed your post; the link just to show I'm not bluffing LOL
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I am well aware of that @Jura and There are reasons for that.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

I am well aware of that @Jura and There are reasons for that.

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I'm guessing you referred to the F-16 SLEP with "that"

I'd be interested though if "that" was why the Pentagon isn't throwing much bigger money at the F-35
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Jura said:

just one thing here:
the last time the F-35 program was in trouble: Nunn–McCurdy breach by F-35B back in 2010

the program is too big to fail, personally I'm surprised the Pentagon isn't throwing much bigger money at it

(ironically I had been reading about the F-16s to fly into the 2040s before I noticed your post; the link just to show I'm not bluffing LOL

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How did a thread on Japan Military news regarding a missing F-35 digressed to F-16 SLEP? I suggest moving some of the conversation out to the appropriate threads if you want to extend the conversation.
Regarding the missing F-35, there is just insufficient public information available to make a reasonable determination as to the cause.

Oops, @siegecrossbow I just saw your post. Sorry to respond as a Moderator after you already had.

My bad there. Hope all is well with you and yours.