SinoSoldier
Colonel
A few big shrimps are saying that the J-15S won't enter production/service.
J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread
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A few big shrimps are saying that the J-15S won't enter production/service.
I have some questions pertaining to the newly posted pictures:
1) There are some paint asymmetries in the recent pictures (Orange circles below). Is it odd or normal to have sensors (assuming paint colour is an accurate indication of sensors/ function) asymmetrically? That means in operation the aircraft may have restrictions trying to orient itself in one direction to perform EW functions but some of its sensor is in the opposite wing.
2) The air-brake is painted green in the black circle below. Does it mean there is likely a pretty big sensor below the air-brake (green assuming it is composites so that the sensor sutting below it can look through the air-brake)? If yes it would be pretty odd to have sensors pointing upwards (assuming not for satellite comms) unless the plane is during operation supposed to be below adversary planes and have sensors pointing upwards maybe at adversary AWACS with sensors on their bellies?
3) The whole horizontal stabilizers are green, is it more likely that they are composites in order to reduce radar reflections or they contain large sensors or act as antennas? If they are composites for radar reductions then shouldn't the canards also be composites too and painted green too? Or just being composites simply for the sake of having lower weight?
1) There are some paint asymmetries in the recent pictures (Orange circles below). Is it odd or normal to have sensors (assuming paint colour is an accurate indication of sensors/ function) asymmetrically? That means in operation the aircraft may have restrictions trying to orient itself in one direction to perform EW functions but some of its sensor is in the opposite wing.
2) The air-brake is painted green in the black circle below. Does it mean there is likely a pretty big sensor below the air-brake (green assuming it is composites so that the sensor sutting below it can look through the air-brake)? If yes it would be pretty odd to have sensors pointing upwards (assuming not for satellite comms) unless the plane is during operation supposed to be below adversary planes and have sensors pointing upwards maybe at adversary AWACS with sensors on their bellies?
3) The whole horizontal stabilizers are green, is it more likely that they are composites in order to reduce radar reflections or they contain large sensors or act as antennas? If they are composites for radar reductions then shouldn't the canards also be composites too and painted green too? Or just being composites simply for the sake of having lower weight?
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Intrepid
Major
I think, green and yellow are no sensors/function colours. They are normal skin colours.
My thinking was based on:
1) Sensors seen on the J10, J16, J20 are either green, light grey and of visually different colour from the rest of the plane structure.
2) They are mostly on either vertical stabilizer tips, leading edges of wings and other extremities.
3) Different primer colours mean a different type of material that they are coating. Could be metal, composites or sensors.
4) There was previous discussion that the dark green primer was for UV protection of composites.
So conclusion is if it's composites or sensors, then it'll be green or light grey. Not necessarily the other way round, green doesn't represent sensors but could be composites.
There are quite a few asymmetries (all happens to be flight control surfaces) that I pointed out.
If those greens are due to being composites, then it'll be very odd that the identical left and right flight control surfaces are of different materials. Therefore should be higher chance that they are sensors instead.
1) Sensors seen on the J10, J16, J20 are either green, light grey and of visually different colour from the rest of the plane structure.
2) They are mostly on either vertical stabilizer tips, leading edges of wings and other extremities.
3) Different primer colours mean a different type of material that they are coating. Could be metal, composites or sensors.
4) There was previous discussion that the dark green primer was for UV protection of composites.
So conclusion is if it's composites or sensors, then it'll be green or light grey. Not necessarily the other way round, green doesn't represent sensors but could be composites.
There are quite a few asymmetries (all happens to be flight control surfaces) that I pointed out.
If those greens are due to being composites, then it'll be very odd that the identical left and right flight control surfaces are of different materials. Therefore should be higher chance that they are sensors instead.
I have some questions pertaining to the newly posted pictures:
1) There are some paint asymmetries in the recent pictures (Orange circles below). Is it odd or normal to have sensors (assuming paint colour is an accurate indication of sensors/ function) asymmetrically? That means in operation the aircraft may have restrictions trying to orient itself in one direction to perform EW functions but some of its sensor is in the opposite wing.
2) The air-brake is painted green in the black circle below. Does it mean there is likely a pretty big sensor below the air-brake (green assuming it is composites so that the sensor sutting below it can look through the air-brake)? If yes it would be pretty odd to have sensors pointing upwards (assuming not for satellite comms) unless the plane is during operation supposed to be below adversary planes and have sensors pointing upwards maybe at adversary AWACS with sensors on their bellies?
3) The whole horizontal stabilizers are green, is it more likely that they are composites in order to reduce radar reflections or they contain large sensors or act as antennas? If they are composites for radar reductions then shouldn't the canards also be composites too and painted green too? Or just being composites simply for the sake of having lower weight?
Just "primer" Gents, relax....
AeroEngineer
Junior Member
The ones that use CAT lunch will use WS-10 engine, but for ski jump should stick to AL-31F, it is has better acceleration.
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Forum posts from pb19980515 indicate that the J-16D and J-15D share the same electronic warfare system and fire-control radar. He also mentioned something regarding anti-submarine capabilities but I'm not sure if that applies to the J-15D discussion or not.
Just different primers over different materials --- sufficient for speculation underneath. I would think Yellow means metal underneath, Green would mean composite underneath likely for weight reduction, and Greys represent another composite --- the radar bandpass kind, indicating radars, radar receivers and ECM arrays. It would be the greys I would pay most attention to, since these are the areas that are most suited for ECM coverage. Most interesting is the possible arrays on the cheeks near the cockpit. The green patch on the center of the plane's spine is probably for the air brake, and would make sense to use composite on that as opposed to metal.
Having siad that...she looks to me to definitley be the The Flying Shark Growler aircraft.
This will be an excellent addition to the PLAN air wings on all of their carriers.
I am sure there will be a two seat version like the F/A-18F SuperHornet for attack missions...but to me, this one looks more like the EW bird.