ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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    Boris Johnson: allies should join Assad and Russia against Isis



    Link: http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ies-should-join-assad-and-russia-against-isis
     
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    This is not a new position!

    This was stated from the start, when the Russian leadership made its first diplomatic overtures regarding the Syrian state. From the start, their preferred solution was to seek a political transition to a new government and to prevent the widening of this war that the US leadership was encouraging as their preferred method of removing the Assad regime.

    Their position, now, is an adamant assertion that Assad will remain through to the transition period and will be a major factor in the negotiations that will inform and develop that transition. This will not be another Iraq or Libya; this transition will be developed responsibly, along a timetable that best suits the Syrian people, and not some foreign interests. This is what will occur, whether the US Axis participates, or not!


    I expect this process to take a whole lot longer than is acceptable to the US leadership, whether that be Democratic or Republican, and I expect that the US leadership will, ultimately, have to accept that all events that occur in this world do not serve US interests. "American pressure", in this arena, has proven to be as low as Tom Brady's footballs!
     
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    The Russian position can be described as: we support Syria and the Syrian voters will vote for the next president and we won't accept that foreign countries will decide who will or will not be allowed to stand. They say it soto voce, but they have the power to prevent the elections being rigged except that USAF might send in an alpha strike to destroy Assad.
     
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    through the blog of "Cassad"
    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2545854.html
    I noticed
    Putin Sees a Chance for Assad to Stay in Power in Syria
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    adding the Bloomberg link:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hance-to-stay-as-u-s-pursues-syria-settlement
     
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    If the war ends the prestige will be won by Assad, Rouhani, Putin and Nazrallah. Where would anyone find a candidate with any chance to win a respectable portion of the votes?
     
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    USAF or any number of US Axis agen(ts/cies).
     
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    from inside this link: "President Vladimir Putin told U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at a meeting in Moscow on Dec. 14 that Assad can’t be barred as a presidential candidate and he would win if he runs, ..." etc.; this part has been denied by
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Peskov
    РИА most recently announced:
    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20151230/1351605029.html
    (according to Mr. Peskov, Mr. Putin did not talk about the participation of Mr. Assad in the elections)
     
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    Yesterday at 5:10 PM
    it's probably confirmed by this video:
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    now I watched it all, saw no dead bodies inside, just kinda cautious approach through the desert ...

    and a moment ago I saw on Twitter the picture by
    @KhaledgAlkhateb
    of Maheen today:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Caught On Tape: Russia Unleashes Massive Bombing Raid On Militant Convoy

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/28/2015

    There’s been some debate over the last two months about whether the concerted effort on Moscow’s part to release hundreds upon hundreds of MoD clips depicting airstrikes in Syria on the way to embarrassing Washington paints an accurate picture of what’s really going on.

    That is, if one simply compares the Russian footage to what we know or have seen with regard to America’s 15-month air campaign against Islamic State, it would be easy to conclude that the US simply hasn’t been trying very hard - or at least not compared to The Kremlin.

    While that’s probably an accurate assessment, it’s not always easy to tell what exactly the Russians are hitting when it comes to the targets being vaporized in the videos (although it’s pretty clear in the clips depicting strikes on oil tankers) and the US contends that one reason The Pentagon has been cautious is that Washington is concerned with civilian casualties, especially as it relates to the drivers in the crude truck convoys. For those who follow the US’s exploits in the Mid-East that’s a hard pill to swallow given what we know about collateral damage in drone strikes and given what happened in October in Kunduz, but the point is, taking Moscow at its word when Russia’s intent is quite clearly to make a mockery of the West’s efforts is just as dangerous as taking Washington at its word when The White House swears the US is doing everything in its power to fight terror.

    All of that said, there’s also been what certainly feels like a marked increase in the number of independently released videos since Russia began bombing rebel and extremist targets. That is, in addition to what Moscow has released on social media, there have been dozens upon dozens of videos shot from the ground which depict either Russian airstrikes themselves or the aftermath. Although it’s not always easy to discern what precisely is going on in the amateur footage, there almost unquestionably seem to be more videos from on the ground cameramen then there were prior to the Russian intervention which in turn suggests that when it comes to the war on terror, Moscow, not Washington, is clearly taking the lead.

    With all of that in mind we present the following clip which purports to show a Russian strike on a “militant convoy.”



    Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...nleashes-massive-bombing-raid-militant-convoy
     
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    recently, in the Gulf, the Provence (D652) joined:
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