ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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    OK Jeff let me finish with this (I'll try to keep it as brief as I can, and while there'll be economy-related points, I believe I don't go off topic):
    I look at the following numbers, for now
    1. five thousand Russian troops in Syria (says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Shoygu I believe I could find the link in one of my recent posts within last perhaps five pages here);
    2. 70% of Syria territory under ISIL control (says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Shoygu I believe I could find the link in one of my recent posts within last perhaps five pages here);
    3. two Russians KIA in Syria;
    4. US$ for more than seventy Rubles (tragicomic gazeta.ru article from today, pulling the quotes of Russian Officials: http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2015/12/15/7969961.shtml);
    5. oil for about thirty-five US$ per barrel (it's slightly more, and it depends on Brent/WTI etc., but that's not the point)
    and I'll check them after one year since the beginning of Russian intervention (September 30, right?), so that in the beginning of October, 2016 I will be able to say I was wrong when
     
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    attempting an update
    Yesterday at 9:40 AM
    (of course, this info can be obsolete as I write!)
     
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    BMP-1 definitely former Syrian, Tiger Force is the name for the Special Syrian Forces


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    To Ramadi/Irak 6 airstrikes yesterday
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/676983138720067584/pu/vid/640x360/Qm6dwVQ5V_wA8tkN.mp4
     
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    A little superfluous to use such missiles !

     
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    US Not Seeking 'Regime Change' in Syria, John Kerry Says After Meeting With Russian President

    http://abcnews.go.com/International...esident-vladimir-putin-seek/story?id=35782171

    Finally a shift from an untenable "Assad must go line". It just needed the Russians to push it along. Hopefully they can now concentrate on a common enemy, ISIS.
     
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    After night now day operations :)



    Jura, Bro :) have you heard something for this deal :

    I did not know him
    No for money :) hehe date or other.
     
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    That's fine, Jura. You are certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter and you have defended it with a good deal of data indicating why you feel that way.

    I respect that.

    but I still do not agree with characterizing it as a quagmire.

    I would certainly not call Russia's involvement in Syria a quagmire at this point in the least.

    For me, they would need to be involved a couple of more years, with little or no results, with lots of losses, and with no easy way to extract themselves.
     
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    Footage of First Helicopters Taking off From Kuweires Airbase after SAA Secured The Perimeter
    I thought somebody would beat me to it :)
     
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    what gives?!
    U.S. military says pulls 12 fighter jets from base in Turkey
    source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa-turkey-idUSKBN0TZ2CU20151216
    (at first I noticed at gazeta.ru:
    http://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/8020067.shtml
    but couldn't locate the link to Reuters)
     
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    There are more details offered.
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/...withdrawing-f15-fighter-jets-from-turkey.html
    I presume there is some sort of understanding reached with the Russians that air coverage for the A-10's might not be necessary anymore. The alternate view is that, the Turks are not happy with the agreement reached with the Russians over Assad and the F-15's got booted out.
     
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