ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)
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Jura The idiot
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most recently at the briefing held by the Russian Ministry of Defense purportedly the evidence of a Turkish-ISIL oil-trade was presented:
(I'm in the process of watching it, is all I can add now)
EDIT
pretty strong anti-Erdogan "personal attack" part starts at about 18:50
EDIT
pretty strong anti-Erdogan "personal attack" part starts at about 18:50
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Jura The idiot
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about two weeks ago, Nov 15, 2015
from the location I identified (maybe wrongly! based on entry) as the place in red ellipse below:
which would likely mean about five miles from the Airbase has been secured, but way to go to Raqqa (actually about 100 miles from there)
and now I saw what's often the most credible info: a TV report
Actually main battle to Ramadi clearly.
One aistrsike can be a attack of 1 fighter bomber or up to a flight 4/6 in general 4 it is not a hight intensity conflict then in fact few sorties Russians do in general 30/80 sorties for a day 1 up to 3 by aircrafts they are the more close of front also.
Very dificult for get aircrafts number for Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve except France and UK i have say, thinking in Turkey 3 HH-60G for CSAR, minimum 6 F-15E, 6 F-15C, 12 F-16, ? UAV + support aircrafts in the Gulf more difficult definitely possivble 6 F-22 a flight, also eventually B-1B and some F-15/16, A-10, UAV ?
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Jura The idiot
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... what do you mean bro? I thought I missed something and the Royal Air Force had started to bomb ISIL yet ... but as of right now, it seems
UK MPs debate air strikes against ISIL in Syria
would be the latest info
Voting in the British Lower House in two hours time.Only in Irak right now no in Syria answer tonight
The Westminster vote came in and came as no surprise to be passed by a sizeable majority.
Returning to more significant matters, I think it is now clear what the strategic objectives of the Russian led coalition are.
It is all about sealing the none ISIS non Kurdish borders with Turkey.
We can see this with the ongoing campaign in the Turkman mountains and through the support being given to the YPG to expand Westwards and close the A'zaz Gap and also through the push East Of Aleppo towards the strategic crossroads city of Dayr Hafir.
The combined result is of course to cut off the flow of supplies from Turkey to the rebels it supports and to also cut the route where Oil form ISIS territory can be "laundered" through rebel held territory prior to passing through into Turkey.
I also suspect a deeper motive for this strategy. Putin has previously described many of the rebel fighters as simply mercenaries, who are very happy to switch their allegiances to the most generous paymasters. Well, I think we will see this hypothesis tested.
If the Rebel held border with Turkey is closed and the flow of money, weapons and other supplies cut (or even severely disrupted), the Putin hypothesis dictates that a very large number of "moderates" will disappear overnight and reappear as radicals fighting for the biggest and most generous remaining paymaster - ISIS. I can see this because not only does this remove the "moderate rebel" gambit from those still seeking to oust President Assad, but it also makes currently rebel territory ISIS territory and therefore removes any questions over legitimacy, currently being levelled at the Russian campaign.
I also read yesterday in various outlets, that some 3000 rebels in Homs have agreed to abandon and transfer out, from the last district of the city that they were holding. Has this been confirmed?
Finally of course the battle going on to the South of Aleppo, It seems that a ferocious counter attack by the rebels has been launched and the result has largely to turn a large area into "bandit country" where nobody has overall control. I would guess that many Government forces are going to be content to sit in the recently liberated towns and take a very heavy toll of the attacking rebels. I think after the dust settles, a lot of rebels will be dead and that the Government forces will still hold the territory. Hopefully new maps will soon appear.
Given that only a few days earlier that the rebel defences had been smashed and local forces routed, it seems as though a lot of rebels have come in from other places and that the places they have left are likely to be the border regions now coming under very heavy pressure. Part of me does wonder if the South Aleppo push was largely diversionary, to achieve this very important objective.
Returning to more significant matters, I think it is now clear what the strategic objectives of the Russian led coalition are.
It is all about sealing the none ISIS non Kurdish borders with Turkey.
We can see this with the ongoing campaign in the Turkman mountains and through the support being given to the YPG to expand Westwards and close the A'zaz Gap and also through the push East Of Aleppo towards the strategic crossroads city of Dayr Hafir.
The combined result is of course to cut off the flow of supplies from Turkey to the rebels it supports and to also cut the route where Oil form ISIS territory can be "laundered" through rebel held territory prior to passing through into Turkey.
I also suspect a deeper motive for this strategy. Putin has previously described many of the rebel fighters as simply mercenaries, who are very happy to switch their allegiances to the most generous paymasters. Well, I think we will see this hypothesis tested.
If the Rebel held border with Turkey is closed and the flow of money, weapons and other supplies cut (or even severely disrupted), the Putin hypothesis dictates that a very large number of "moderates" will disappear overnight and reappear as radicals fighting for the biggest and most generous remaining paymaster - ISIS. I can see this because not only does this remove the "moderate rebel" gambit from those still seeking to oust President Assad, but it also makes currently rebel territory ISIS territory and therefore removes any questions over legitimacy, currently being levelled at the Russian campaign.
I also read yesterday in various outlets, that some 3000 rebels in Homs have agreed to abandon and transfer out, from the last district of the city that they were holding. Has this been confirmed?
Finally of course the battle going on to the South of Aleppo, It seems that a ferocious counter attack by the rebels has been launched and the result has largely to turn a large area into "bandit country" where nobody has overall control. I would guess that many Government forces are going to be content to sit in the recently liberated towns and take a very heavy toll of the attacking rebels. I think after the dust settles, a lot of rebels will be dead and that the Government forces will still hold the territory. Hopefully new maps will soon appear.
Given that only a few days earlier that the rebel defences had been smashed and local forces routed, it seems as though a lot of rebels have come in from other places and that the places they have left are likely to be the border regions now coming under very heavy pressure. Part of me does wonder if the South Aleppo push was largely diversionary, to achieve this very important objective.