What do you mean "solved" automatically? Like the Palestinians would just magically stop complaining and that their call for their own state will essentially become nothing but meaningless drivel?
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Invade their land slowly, drive Palestinians to poverty, immigrations, make their health conditions worse to die more and birth less.
1km "new" Israel land here and there, and in a couple of decades Palestine wouldn't be such a big problem.
From Israel's POV, its best strategy is to keep doing what it does now for decades
Oh dear. It seems you have no Idea about the Palestinian problem. It's the only thing 100% of Arab (and mulim in general) population fully agree upon. If you try to argue in favor of Israel in Arab public spaces, chances are you'll get lynched by everyone. In fact, I remember a Saudi prince once said that Israelis had the right to have a place they call home. This resulted in a huge public outcry all over the Arab world, with people proclaiming that the saudis can no longer represent Islam and had to be deposed, until the king came out and stated that this prince's opinion didn't represent that of Saudi Arabia as a whole.
In every muslim country that I know of, and they're many, The situation in Palestine is taught to children from a very young age and presented as a cause worth fighting and dying for. Those who stand up to Israeli occupation forces and those who die doing it, ranging from kids throwing rocks at tanks all the way to scientist helping Hamas build guided rockets and drones (happened in my country, guy was assassinated by mossad), are presented as heroes and martyrs by all types of media available: radio, TV news, TV series, movies, school events, teachers during classes, etc.
What I'm trying to say here is that Israel has no choice here, especially with the waning pressure on muslims from the west. They must negotiate, compromise, and try to find a common middle ground, or they'll never know peace with 1.3 billion humans.
By the way, what they've been doing for decades assumes unlimited support from the west. with the US quickly crumbling, and especially if it takes heavy losses against China in Taiwan, their clock is ticking, and it's spelling certain doom for them (unless they reach apeaceful settlement with Muslims ofc, wich is very doable).
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The public is irrelevant. Palestine was sold down the river by its Muslim friends with the Abraham Accords. Saudi Arabia is the last one standing among its Arab "friends". And even it, it probably waits for a good occasion to do it without a public outrage happening
Again, the public matters jackshit on strategic matters.
What I find ironic, is that among all of its "friends", China is the most sincere ally of Palestine nowadays. Muslim friends (I don't mean the public, I mean the leaders) could care less about it
Absolutely not, like how no chinese president will ever allow himself to be the one who loses Taiwan, so is the case for every arabian (and muslim) leader when it comes to (completely) losing Palestine.
I can guarantee you that doing otherwise will cost said leader his position (except Morocco, probably). You're right that public opinion doesn't matter, except when all of the public agrees on issue, and treats as non-negotiable.
As I said Israel can Salami slice all it wants. The moment the Muslim world perceives a weakness from their major helpers (USA), they're done.
Insane yankees. Our british shoulds keep away from them.
I mean you can disagree all you want, but we have living proof of it, the Abraham Accords.
The Arabs won't do anything against the Israel unless it takes visible action against Palestine like outright invasion.
However, Israel won't do that, it will keep building settlements, displacing Palestinians slowly and the Arabs will simply turn a blind eye towards this. They may shout some empty slogans, but no real strategic action against Israel will happen.
So, lets see how Palestine will look like in 2040, 2050.
Here is this map again for reference:
That's just f..ng sad to look at man. What's actually the legal basis of Jewish/Israel people claiming this land other than what's written on the bible/torah? I wasn't aware that biblical texts equals historical facts/truths. Yet, the same line of arguments that are grounded in historical documents, facts, with respect to China's sovereignty, territorial integrity are set aside in favour of "International laws" like UNCLOS for SCS etc.
Is my understanding of this situation stupid or am just not well versed enough regarding the actual difference between the arguments I am referencing.
Its sad but thats how the world works, especially geopolitics. Palestine's future is indeed grim
Fair or unfair, laws or no laws, territorial integrity, history, sovereignty etc. Nothing matters. Its all about strength. The number 1 rule in this world, the only law that exists, is strength. If you are strong, grab it, if you are weak, "ally" with a strong one to protect you.
The gardener wasn't that wrong when he said about how the rest of the world is a jungle. The only mistake he made, is that EU is also in that world jungle, its just that its position is as the private and exclusive garden of the top predator in the jungle.