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FairAndUnbiased said:
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Hmm maybe there is a market for a mobile app that could tell different types of East Asians apart so that they won't arrest non-Chinese nationals.
 
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drowingfish

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Eventine said:
Pretty much.

It should be remembered that Jews in Germany were well aware of what was happening when the Nazis were rising to power. They had advance warning that Hitler and his party hated Jews, and actually, the Nazis encouraged the Jews to leave the country all the way until 1941.

But most of them did not manage to escape, because first, it was difficult for German Jews to just give up their lives and leave when their homes, families, careers, etc. were all in Germany and being a German was all they knew. And second, because they underestimated the brutality of the Nazis - ie they simply could not conceive just how bad things were going to get once the war started.

It feels very much that Chinese in the West are in a similar position today, where the vast majority of Chinese Americans, Europeans, Australians, Canadians, etc. are aware that things are getting worse, but won't leave because they're too invested, on one hand, and because they just don't believe that it'll ever get "that bad." They genuinely believe that, however terrible relations between China and the West become, as long as Chinese immigrants keep their heads down, it'll all be okay.

This is, honestly, scary to me, because it's similar to what most German Jews - and later most Jews in Poland, Austria, and else where in the Nazi empire - believed. That there is a floor to the Indo-European capacity for brutality. The Nazis, of course, proved them wrong. But it's not like the signs weren't there, even before that. Just ask the Native Americans and the other colonized peoples just blood thirsty Indo-Europeans can be. Once you recognize that, you recognize that they're capable of anything.
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i agree and disagree at the same time. yes the Chinese diaspora in western countries will likely have a very hard time in the coming decades. we have seen what western societies are capable of in the early days of Russian invasion of Ukraine. a lot of things that were normally unthinkable can be justified, such as confiscating russian property to compensate Ukraine, or denying participation of Russians in various events, changing historical narratives etc. This will be even worse if it were targeted at China because the Chinese are colored people.

at the same time i dont think it will be like WWII where the Japanese were sent to internment camps. those practices were from the early days of mass immigration where authorities didnt know how to handle all of these people that originated from a enemy state. and the action of rounding up the japanese were driven as much by fear as hatred. for the Chinese the treatment will likely be something that looks like the Nuremberg law with some liberal touch. it will be painful for sure, and for many Chinese residing in the west the better option likely is indeed to move back to China, or a non-western country.
 
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drowingfish said:
i agree and disagree at the same time. yes the Chinese diaspora in western countries will likely have a very hard time in the coming decades. we have seen what western societies are capable of in the early days of Russian invasion of Ukraine. a lot of things that were normally unthinkable can be justified, such as confiscating russian property to compensate Ukraine, or denying participation of Russians in various events, changing historical narratives etc. This will be even worse if it were targeted at China because the Chinese are colored people.

at the same time i dont think it will be like WWII where the Japanese were sent to internment camps. those practices were from the early days of mass immigration where authorities didnt know how to handle all of these people that originated from a enemy state. and the action of rounding up the japanese were driven as much by fear as hatred. for the Chinese the treatment will likely be something that looks like the Nuremberg law with some liberal touch. it will be painful for sure, and for many Chinese residing in the west the better option likely is indeed to move back to China, or a non-western country.
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Gonna say it again: Rwanda.
 
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CMP

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sunnymaxi said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648034371327127574

A significant message, in light of Beijing's new role as regional peacemaker: Israel calls on China to restrain
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's nuclear program. Also significant: it is now China that is presumably in a position to take action, instead of the US..

interesting time ahead guys.
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That's because they threw all their own leverage away. Just like with TPP. Just like with JCPOA. Just like with CAI. Just like with freezing and then trying to steal Russia's foreign assets. Just like with GWOT. The West is continuously harming themselves needlessly.
 
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