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GZDRefugee

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A foreign citizen can be neutralised by 1. Marrying a Chinese citizen, 2. Being a VIP/key contributor/skilled person, approved by government (province and above?) agency. There used to be (probably still is) an agency doing it 外国专家管理局.
Does anything change if you were born in China but obtained citizenship in another country? Also, my grandparents are still alive.
 

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“It’s not that we won’t make contact, but the question is what would they talk about?” said Wang Yiwei, the director of the Institute of International Affairs at Renmin University in Beijing. He added of Mr. Zelensky: “His hope for a call was that China would condemn Russia’s invasion and call for Russia to withdraw its troops. That’s not realistic.”

Ukraine also faced pressure from the United States to distance itself from China, leading it in 2021 to scrap the $3.6 billion sale of a Ukrainian aerospace manufacturer to Chinese investors.
 

taxiya

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Does anything change if you were born in China but obtained citizenship in another country? Also, my grandparents are still alive.
Person born in China to parents who have no Chinese citizenship are not Chinese.

Obtaining foreign citizenship at birth disqualify Chinese citizenship regardless where the person is born. However, a person born in China to Chinese citizen will have Chinese citizenship. But for whatever reason if the person is also qualified for a foreign citizenship, the parent may have a choice to renounce the foreign citizenship therefor retain the Chinese citizenship. There used to be a de facto grace period of 18 years to make that renunciation/declaration, but I am not sure if the wording of the law has remove that or not.

Only parents can pass their citizenship to their child, not grandparent.
 

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Pretty much.

It should be remembered that Jews in Germany were well aware of what was happening when the Nazis were rising to power. They had advance warning that Hitler and his party hated Jews, and actually, the Nazis encouraged the Jews to leave the country all the way until 1941.

But most of them did not manage to escape, because first, it was difficult for German Jews to just give up their lives and leave when their homes, families, careers, etc. were all in Germany and being a German was all they knew. And second, because they underestimated the brutality of the Nazis - ie they simply could not conceive just how bad things were going to get once the war started.

It feels very much that Chinese in the West are in a similar position today, where the vast majority of Chinese Americans, Europeans, Australians, Canadians, etc. are aware that things are getting worse, but won't leave because they're too invested, on one hand, and because they just don't believe that it'll ever get "that bad." They genuinely believe that, however terrible relations between China and the West become, as long as Chinese immigrants keep their heads down, it'll all be okay.

This is, honestly, scary to me, because it's similar to what most German Jews - and later most Jews in Poland, Austria, and else where in the Nazi empire - believed. That there is a floor to the Indo-European capacity for brutality. The Nazis, of course, proved them wrong. But it's not like the signs weren't there, even before that. Just ask the Native Americans and the other colonized peoples just blood thirsty Indo-Europeans can be. Once you recognize that, you recognize that they're capable of anything.
It is good in the long term. Chinese diaspora needs to learn valuable lessons about the true nature of Western societies and about standing up for themselves. Reestablishing loyalty to the motherland can come later, in the later generations (Gen Z) who grow up acknowledging China as a wise and prosperous country.

I think most first generation migrants will wake up if the US and allies start passing Chinese Exclusion Acts on property ownership and university education. Those two things are the biggest reasons Chinese people immigrate. There is such a huge asian community in Texas, I can't imagine how it will survive if the bill is passed.



A follow up on the ongoing crackdown on Chinese apps:
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from the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission (USCC) claims two popular digital platforms - Shein and Temu, pose a risk to US customer data.

Shein comes in for particular criticism, with the report saying it, “requests that users share their data and activity from other apps, including social media, in exchange for discounts and special deals on Shein products.”

Shein “has struggled to protect user data”, the report added, apparently referring to a $1.9 million fine imposed by the New York State on its parent company Zoetop in 2022 for failing to secure user credit card data and other personal information.

Data practices aside, the USCC also accuses Shein of failing to prove that the clothes it brings in from the Xinjiang region weren’t a product of forced labor, something that’s mandatory for businesses in the United States under the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act.

Shein, on the other hand, claims it never broke any laws. “Shein takes visibility across our supply chain seriously,” a company representative told the publication. The firm’s been behaving “lawfully with full respect for the communities [it] serves” for over a decade, they said.
For Temu, its business practices are raising red flags at the USCC, the report further claims: “Temu’s lack of affiliation with established brands has brought concerns of product quality as well as accusations of copyright infringement.”

Separately, its sister app
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following complaints about the presence of malware to bypass user security permissions and access private messages, according to the report.


Facebook, Twitter, Google, Apple, and Amazon
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over India’s fact-checking rule
The "Asia Internet Coalition", an influential industry organization representing technology giants such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, Apple, and Amazon, has voiced concerns over
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India recently updated its IT rules, barring social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter from disseminating false or misleading information about the government’s business affairs.
The amendments lack the “sufficient procedural safeguards” to protect people’s "fundamental rights" to access information, said Jeff Paine, Managing Director of AIC in a statement.

SpaceX scrubs first test launch of behemoth Starship​

Live webcast during the final minutes of the countdown on Monday said it was cancelling the test for at least 48 hours.
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“Learned a lot today, retrying in a few days,” Musk tweeted after the launch was scrubbed.
 

CMP

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If shit goes bad flee to Hong Kong which is visa free and/or apply for a 10 year visa NOW.

If you have an old Chinese passport, keep it.

Watch Hotel Rwanda NOW. Do not hesitate.
In some sense, HK, Macau, and Taiwan can be seen as back doors into China. If you have no choice, marry a local from one of those 3 Chinese jurisdictions and you will be on the right path. If those aren't options, Singapore or Malaysia at least keeps you in the geographical neighborhood and around Chinese ethnic communities.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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In some sense, HK, Macau, and Taiwan can be seen as back doors into China. If you have no choice, marry a local from one of those 3 Chinese jurisdictions and you will be on the right path.
Many are already married to non Chinese.

The best solution isn't fleeing during the conflict, it is fleeing before the conflict. During the conflict borders are closed, bank accounts get frozen, checkpoints will soon be set up - even if not by government, then by racist militias Rwanda style.

I think it will be Rwanda style where the government military focuses on fighting the war while outsourcing the purges to gun owner militias organized via social media. Rwanda was even deadlier than the Holocaust, with 800k deaths within 3 months, much faster than Germans 1 million / year.
 

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