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Bellum_Romanum

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You're putting a ton of effort into arguing with the totally delusional. May as well add him to your ignore list and take a well-deserved cocktail break.
Lol it's all good. We should be able to agree to disagree with each other for having a different take/views on any given issues, especially thorny geopolitical issues that can and will invoke strong emotions and reactions from some of us here.
 

Overbom

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How in the world is the U.S. along with it's vassals are going to realistically be able to drag this war against Russia for a few more years?
You doubt West's economic power? I wouldn't do that if I was you. I never underestimate the West for a simple reason, they are fat sheep. Yes they might get a bit hungry, go for a diet, but I can assure you, they have more than enough fat to ride out the Russians in this one.


In what world is Ukraine even going to survive another 2 years of this meat grinder?
Ukraine still has plenty of manpower. As for the economy, IMF is just going to give them some printed money once in a while. Just enough to keep them barely alive and give them some hope

What economic strength and leverage do EU countries have that it's practically would be willing to sacrifice it's economic future, economic competitiveness, economic vitality, deindustrialization and businesses exiting to countries with greater stability not just in market, but also energy prices. That means they're going to big bad China, India, Middle-Eastern countries and the best of them all, U.S.A.
Why do you think the EU has a choice. The EU can huff and puff all it wants, but if the boss says "Jump!", the EU is just going to ask back "how high".

The ultimate proof of that is the NS2 thing. Did you see Germany or any other EU country rebelling against a direct, blatant US economic attack against them? They just said thanks daddy and Scholz was basically licking Biden's boots the next time they met. That's how you know who is the EU boss


Sooner or later these EU leaders would have been awaken from their monumental stupidity if not from their business, industrialists etc. but from their FED UP PUBLIC that will be taking the brunt mostly from this war that's already affected their lives economically due to inflationary pressures.
No. Vassals are vassals. Vassals, by definition, can rebel but it would take much more for a EU rebellion to happen than the Russian war to drag for a few years more.

Its also funny that you think the public affects anything serious in geopolitics. I can assure you that Biden's dog is more influential in geopolitics than the public. Just a quick CIA media blitz and that public would change its opinion faster than Scholz could count to 10.

We're giving too much credit to American geopolitical 3d chess from the way you laid out your reasoning and even they would be blushing red in how you have given them too much credit from their supposed geopolitical gambit that's so far has worked out for them in your view.
I have said it before, never underestimate your opponent. Especially someone who has been a superpower for almost a century.

You think my reasoning is actually some kind of geopolitical 3d chess and that American strategists are idiots? Check this out then, RAND report from 2019. If you are really interested, I would recommend reading the entire report

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Overextending and Unbalancing Russia​

This brief summarizes a report that comprehensively examines nonviolent, cost-imposing options that the United States and its allies could pursue across economic, political, and military areas to stress—overextend and unbalance—Russia’s economy and armed forces and the regime's political standing at home and abroad
A team of RAND experts developed economic, geopolitical, ideological, informational, and military options and qualitatively assessed them in terms of their likelihood of success in extending Russia, their benefits, and their risks and costs.


I don't share the same optimism as you do with regards to this great geopolitical power play, nor do I agree that in 10 or 20 years Russia's decision to invade Ukraine would be looked down negatively. What choice do they have? Live with a Ukraine that's part of NATO/EU and then what? WWIII? Russia was simply stuck between a rock and a hard place, which in other words they're left IMHO with no alternative but to do what's needed to be done
You provide reasoning here for Russian actions. I don't disagree with you. Tbh I also think that a military action was needed. But why do I need to care for Russia's reasoning for my analysis. Its to the US Strategists' credit that they drove Russia to such a position. That they were stuck in a lose or lose position mean that whatever choice they would have taken would be a strategic defeat.

Thats real power. Driving your opponent to choose between shit option 1 and shit option 2. Whatever he might choose, its still a strategic defeat.


What I can criticize Russia is with their abysmal military performance notwithstanding the obvious NATO/US led assistance from the very beginning. That much was obvious and yet their performance has so far has created a lasting damage in their reputation as a military superpower.
Obviously. In fact, Russia could have turned around the bad strategic situation it was in if its military had performed well. But that's another story, lets not talk about it, we all know who is responsible for Russia's military performance
 

drowingfish

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this is a real potential issue for the US. that israel gets caught in some hot war in the middle east and it is forced to intervene. russia certainly would love to see this, less so for China given its destabilizing effect on the energy price, but still a positive overall to be drawing the US into the middle east against the entire muslim world.
 

baykalov

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Clearly the Pentagon "leak" was intentional, the US is backing out of Ukraine, notice how before the US retreats the pentagon always has a big "leak", like
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. These "leaks" serve multiple purpose, the most important of which is to shift public sentiments, giving stairs to walk back on the war.

Thanks for that info on Vietnam and Afghanistan, I didn't know it!

So we have a repeating pattern. Articles in recent days like the one in the WаPо telling us that U.S. doubts Ukraine counteroffensive will yield big gains:

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BoraTas

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this is a real potential issue for the US. that israel gets caught in some hot war in the middle east and it is forced to intervene. russia certainly would love to see this, less so for China given its destabilizing effect on the energy price, but still a positive overall to be drawing the US into the middle east against the entire muslim world.
Unlikely. Netanyahu is increasingly seen a trouble maker even in the US. And these days middle east wars are not popular among Americans.
 

ficker22

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As another Twitter commentator wrote this guy should write a dystopian sci-fi novel after he retires from the Polish govt. He is quite dramatic and we have the name ready. Neo-Europe vs Evil Empire... I would read that. I don't look forward to seeing it in real life though. Especially not with my tax money.



That's the mistake, just don't pay taxes, oh and max out your credit card. :D


I sure hope @9dashline is doing fine IRL.


Sometimes I'm envious, those empire drones get solid pay for spilling shit, what a life.
 

baykalov

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As another Twitter commentator wrote this guy should write a dystopian sci-fi novel after he retires from the Polish govt. He is quite dramatic and we have the name ready. Neo-Europe vs Evil Empire... I would read that. I don't look forward to seeing it in real life though. Especially not with my tax money.

Seems that Morawiecki just discovered Tolkien's books and now he is lost in that world, defines himself as an elv fighting Mordor.

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