I wish to see SA joining the China-Russia-Iran joint naval drill in the gulf region in the near future.View attachment 110541
Ursula von der Leyen in Beijing today? Who's that?
The US will cry about how Iran-Saudi normalization was a joint effort which included the west also
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The serious answer, yes it is either within Chinese territory water or EEZ, coast guard has that power.
The not serious answer, yes because I (China) said so.
wow, that is very cold.
But seriously though, couldn't she rent a limousine with her EU money?
Got to admit, arriving in a plane you built is pretty chad.No, Macron received full treatment as a head of state can get, including the honor guard on the tarmac and motorcade escort.
Here is the video from CCTV.
The video above confirms that She arrived separately.
To everyone, seriously though, I don't think China is deliberately giving her a cold treatment in terms of protocol. No matter what the Europeans think, diplomatically she is just a bureaucrat at the rank of a minister, she is not head of state or government, at best on the rank of ambassador who doesn't qualify any welcoming ceremony or meeting at the tarmac treatment.
No actually it's quite the opposite - most of France's rhetoric is in line with the US but its actions are not. France (and most of EU) has not pursued the same anti-Chinese policies of the US with few exceptions (like banning Huawei). That's why for example Chinese EV makers are expanding to Europe but not in the US. Chinese tech companies have no hope or future in the US, while Europe remains a viable and crucial market, and it's in China's interests to keep it that way.
Who greeted Macron when he walked off the stairs? Didn't seem like a high level official to me, not exactly the warmest welcome.No, Macron received full treatment as a head of state can get, including the honor guard on the tarmac and motorcade escort.
Here is the video from CCTV.
The video above confirms that She arrived separately.
To everyone, seriously though, I don't think China is deliberately giving her an cold treatment in terms of protocol. No matter what the Europeans think, diplomatically she is just a bureaucrat at the rank of a minister, she is not head of state or government, at best on the rank of ambassador who doesn't qualify any welcoming ceremony or meeting at the tarmac treatment.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Of course they are not as aggressive as the US but dragging thier feet, if the US insists, they must follow anyway. They have no reason to be as aggressive as America; they are sacrificing their own benefits for someone else's dominance. But so long as their bottom line is spinelessness in the face of American insistence, they are hostile nations nonetheless. Is there anything that Macron or France stands out in compared to the rest of the EU in positive action towards China? As far as I can tell, it is roughly the same with Macron being the soft smooth talker going to Russia and China. Both countries are far too intelligent for his bullshit.
Huawei ban, EUV ban, that recent shit they did with Lithuania the name of which I cannot recall, etc... It's a dangerous gamble as to what they will do when America tells them they must. Of course it's best for China to take that market, but it is still controlled in hostile territory. And on the other hand, as far as I'm concerned, these people don't deserve China's excellent EV cars.
Most treaties are never set in stone forever. Peoples values and interests will change over time. However, THIS particular problem (i.e. NATO expansion) and even the Minsk agreements were nothing but a lie which the Russians had no choice but to accept at face value at that time. Now that we all know the West is "agreement incapable," no further dialogue is necessary until certain actions are taken first to Russia's approval.
I would be surprised if France (i.e. Airbus) would even allow Boeing to return to the Chinese market. After getting screwed in the Mistral LHD and Australian submarine deals, it would be foolish for France's to not return the favor back to the Americans. After all, the Americans are their competitors. Of course this would depend on whether China would be willing to play this game.
Temstar made a reference to a . The point is that Beijing will make it legal which it already is as you pointed out.
Lethe
Captain
France is the last European nation that still thinks of itself as a Great Power. France sees a multipolar world that dilutes American power as furthering its interests, hence its relative enthusiasm for engaging with India, Brazil, Russia, China, most recently Indonesia. This is also why France is the most enthusiastic advocate of further EU integration (as distinct from further enlargement, which was encouraged by the UK specifically to weaken the EU's capacity for collective decision-making).
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Good Cop, Bad Cop routine.
The EU or any of the Western Europeans states are not to be trusted as proven when they all admitted they had zero intentions of fullfilling any of the agreements with Russia. They act like a mediator when they are really just an Imperial vassal.
The EU or any of the Western Europeans states are not to be trusted as proven when they all admitted they had zero intentions of fullfilling any of the agreements with Russia. They act like a mediator when they are really just an Imperial vassal.