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horse

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The only thing that they succeeded in with the little stunt is perhaps unite both parties on the subject of China. That would be helpful except that the greatest challenge comes not from China, but from problems within.

This TikTok ban is largely a non-story.

It is very interesting that way. Compare the news coverage of the US Congress trying to ban TikTok to that recent train derailment and toxic spill. I read rumours that it was not a bad as initially thought. But even that they will not report.

It's like everything is the Twilight Zone. Where make believe is real. And vice versa.

If those politicians continue down this path of trying to ban TikTok, it will wind up in court in front of a US federal judge I would imagine.

They know that, because they are all lawyers those US politicians.

But there is the dirty trick here. The US Congress will not ban TikTok, it will be the president who does it. So the US Congress will claim the credit if it works, and if it does not work everyone will blame Biden.

I would be very surprised if the US court system does not throw out the same case just like last time.

:D
 

9dashline

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This TikTok ban is largely a non-story.

It is very interesting that way. Compare the news coverage of the US Congress trying to ban TikTok to that recent train derailment and toxic spill. I read rumours that it was not a bad as initially thought. But even that they will not report.

It's like everything is the Twilight Zone. Where make believe is real. And vice versa.

If those politicians continue down this path of trying to ban TikTok, it will wind up in court in front of a US federal judge I would imagine.

They know that, because they are all lawyers those US politicians.

But there is the dirty trick here. The US Congress will not ban TikTok, it will be the president who does it. So the US Congress will claim the credit if it works, and if it does not work everyone will blame Biden.

I would be very surprised if the US court system does not throw out the same case just like last time.

:D
Remember when people thought this was all "Trumps" idea? and that Biden would reverse course?

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horse

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This is how to run a country.

That mega project is going into the rust belt, and they need everything they can get there. Since this is a refinery, it probably is permanent.

The Saudis and Chinese probably will not need to use US dollars to make this deal. Too much trouble, for the present, and for the future.

:cool:
 

horse

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Remember when people thought this was all "Trumps" idea? and that Biden would reverse course?

Not really, to be honest.

Both of them are really lame.

The only difference is that with the right wingers, China probably can still deal with them. As we have seen for the left, it is next to impossible.

President Trump still signed a trade deal with the representative from China in Lui He.

These leftist in the Biden people are no good.
 

Hood_Rat

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Remember when people thought this was all "Trumps" idea? and that Biden would reverse course?

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These people fundamentally believed in the assumptions of the rules based international order and western liberalism. They were not actually believers in either Marxism or Chinese traditional philosophies like Legalism and Confucianism which have been melded together to form Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. This is why they incorrectly assumed Biden and the left wing of the American uni-party would reverse course instead of intensifying the hostility to China.

If you understand the universalist nature of western liberalism and the rent seeking mechanisms of the rules based international order then you'd know that China becoming rich and prosperous without turning their society into a subservient oligarchy of the Davos crowd is an existential crisis for the west. Either China dies or the west dies.

There will not be a peaceful transition of power or a managed competition. Our children will live in a chaotic world marked by war, poverty, paranoia, famine, ecological collapse, and militarized garrison states. To argue otherwise is delusional. Learn to love the bomb as Dr. Strangelove taught us.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Not really, to be honest.

Both of them are really lame.

The only difference is that with the right wingers, China probably can still deal with them. As we have seen for the left, it is next to impossible.

President Trump still signed a trade deal with the representative from China in Lui He.

These leftist in the Biden people are no good.
Bai Deng is not left.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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These people fundamentally believed in the assumptions of the rules based international order and western liberalism. They were not actually believers in either Marxism or Chinese traditional philosophies like Legalism and Confucianism which have been melded together to form Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. This is why they incorrectly assumed Biden and the left wing of the American uni-party would reverse course instead of intensifying the hostility to China.

If you understand the universalist nature of western liberalism and the rent seeking mechanisms of the rules based international order then you'd know that China becoming rich and prosperous without turning their society into a subservient oligarchy of the Davos crowd is an existential crisis for the west. Either China dies or the west dies.

There will not be a peaceful transition of power or a managed competition. Our children will live in a chaotic world marked by war, poverty, paranoia, famine, ecological collapse, and militarized garrison states. To argue otherwise is delusional. Learn to love the bomb as Dr. Strangelove taught us.
So be it. With the fast pace of change, we'll see the results much sooner than Cold War 1. We're living in some... exciting... times.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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this is not just a business move but a defensive move, as it builds a refinery within a few hours driving distance from North Korea and in one of the most defended waters in the world, Bohai, which is surrounded by China on 3 sides and the mouth of which is next to North Korea. and its in an inner bay of Bohai, which is even further guarded.

in event of a major conflict which looks to have a non-zero possibility, this is going to be a major safe refinery that is much safer than the refineries in Jiangsu where most current refineries are located, and most of all, it will be able to provide rapid fuel support to units in North Korea.
 

BoraTas

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Another stinker from Borrell


Things like this are why I say as immoral as the Russian invasion of Ukraine is, it is not different from how the geopolitical West handles its affairs. Few things to remember:
  • There is nothing in international law that makes countries entitled to secure neighborhoods.
  • Countries are free to choose their allies and what foreign weapons to host
  • Europe hosts US nuclear weapons and was completely OK with expanding NATO to Ukraine. Thus it has no moral high ground to speak from either
The fundamental problem with Pax Americana is one side believes it has an infinite right to military expansion while believing other parties have the right to none. This type of thinking can’t work anymore.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Another stinker from Borrell


Things like this are why I say as immoral as the Russian invasion of Ukraine is, it is not different from how the geopolitical West handles its affairs. Few things to remember:
  • There is nothing in international law that makes countries entitled to secure neighborhoods.
  • Countries are free to choose their allies and what foreign weapons to host
  • Europe hosts US nuclear weapons and was completely OK with expanding NATO to Ukraine. Thus it has no moral high ground to speak from either
The fundamental problem with Pax Americana is one side believes it has an infinite right to military expansion while believing other parties have the right to none. This type of thinking can’t work anymore.

Oh sweet summer child, the Ukraine war was inevitable and part of the plan.

The American led western MO is to take everything and give nothing back. It’s always to push push push, until the ‘enemy’ has nowhere left to go and nothing left to give, then you fight them deep in their sphere of influence and as close to their heartland as possible so you can hopefully also trash that during the war.

In American projection laden eyes, wars are always inevitable, so it’s better to fight in someone else’s backyard than your own, that way you don’t need to deal with the fallout and mess afterwards.

There is a reason America has basically been perpetually at war since even before it’s founding. War is its default setting.
 
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