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Overbom

Brigadier
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Deng Xiaoping, ironically, drastically cut back on Chinese soft power operations because Lee Kwan Yew told him that it was the only way to gain Singapore's support.
Not only for Singapore. A lot of ASEAN countries weren't comfortable with Chinese soft power.

As I am sure you are aware, a lot of sacrifices were made at that time by China. A lot of painful sacrifices, human tragedies. A lot of immigrant Chinese people suffered at that time, but they don't hold grudges because they knew at that time that the motherland was powerless and couldnt help them. Alas, such is the fate of the weak. Being weak is truly the only sin that a human can commit
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
Not only for Singapore. A lot of ASEAN countries weren't comfortable with Chinese soft power.

As I am sure you are aware, a lot of sacrifices were made at that time by China. A lot of painful sacrifices, human tragedies. A lot of immigrant Chinese people suffered at that time, but they don't hold grudges because they knew at that time that the motherland was powerless and couldnt help them. Alas, such is the fate of the weak. Being weak is truly the only sin that a human can do
The biggest tragedy was Qing and ROC incompetence which was the root cause. PRC is cleaning up their mess still, almost 100 years later.
 

FriedButter

Brigadier
Registered Member
The biggest tragedy was Qing and ROC incompetence which was the root cause. PRC is cleaning up their mess still, almost 100 years later.

Not like we can dwell on what ifs. Honestly, even if they did mop up all the incompetences. It’s not like the core structural issues could have been changed without wiping the entire slate clean.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
Oh that's something new
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Former Taiwan president Ma Ying-jeou to visit China in landmark trip​

TAIPEI, March 19 (Reuters) - Former Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou will visit China this month, his office said on Sunday, the first time a former or current Taiwanese leader has visited since the defeated Republic of China government fled to the island in 1949.
Ma, who remains a senior member of Taiwan's Kuomintang (KMT) opposition party, held a landmark meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Singapore in late 2015, shortly before current Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen was elected.
Ma's office said that he would visit China from March 27 to April 7 and go to the cities of Nanjing, Wuhan, Changsha, Chongqing and Shanghai.
He will meet students and visit sites connected to World War Two and China's conflict with Japan as well as those related to the 1911 revolution which overthrew the last Chinese emperor and ushered in the Republic of China, his office said.

The Republic of China remains Taiwan's official name.

It did not say if he would meet any Chinese officials or leaders, including whether he would meet Xi.
 

TK3600

Major
Registered Member
It is easier said than done though. Japanese culture exports are successful not only because they offer strong products, but also that such exports are tolerated by the U.S. How could China export any cultural products when something as innocuous Tiktok, which is devoid of any Chinese cultural content, is at risk of being banned? I think that’s an even bigger hurdle than creating competitive soft power products.
I disagree. Tiktok is the most succesful export and American cannot ban it. It is political suicide. It doesnt need Chinese culture. It just need lack of MSM unhinged brainwash. We start from there and go up. There will be more Chinese content after secure a foothold. Be patient!
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Chinese tech improves much faster and its research is more dynamic but the US still sits on a mountain of accumulated mature technologies that are ready to use. Only recently has China started dominating research speed; it takes time for that to translate into functional dominance.

Don’t you see this is precisely where and why the west fucked up with outsourcing, because guess where the overwhelming majority of the world’s best practical expertise and experience in turning research breakthroughs into functional products resides today?

This is a fundamental reason why western reshoring efforts have so consistently resulted in calamitous failure and why China has been able to operationalise new discoveries so much faster and more successfully than the west.
 

Jingle Bells

Junior Member
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At this point, American provocations are actually stalling Chinese growth and reputation around the world.

Uhm, what do you mean here? In what way did the US "stall Chinese growth“ in any meaningful sense?
Sanctions?
Or the fact that the US's own poor economy is stalling world growth in general, and also slowed down Chinese economic growth?

If you are talking about the former, you should know that those doesn't matter as much as the media wants you to believe.

If you are talking about the latter, you really need to stop taking things out of context. Stalling Chinese economic growth, in the face of stalling global growth, as a result of a weak and on-the-brink-of-recession US economy, propped up temporarily by unlimited printing of dollars? Those are NOT real indicators of any kind of "stalling Chinese economic growth". In fact, it would be a good thing for China, because it is helping China to get rid of systematic economic/financial risks.

The fact that the Chinese stock market has pretty much been artificially kept at a relatively low point in the last decade, is ONLY good and nothing bad for China. It might make it look weak on growth on paper, but it is preventing strategic and systematic economic/financial risks. Imagine if the Chinese stock market is allowed by the Chinese government to bubble up to the 10k to 20k index point, it will be a juicy harvest for the US financial vultures. And this juicy harvest would have made China into the the next Japan.

Any one who know how capitalism works, would look at that high US stock market and recognize how big of a bubble it is. It is a bubble waiting to burst, and it should have burst a few years ago already, in order to keep the long term capitalist economy safe and healthy. Recession is a natural periodic occurrence to the capitalism economies, and it is NOT a bad thing systematically. Preventing it to happen, delaying its happening, is BAD for the capitalist economy, systematically. This will ONLY result in greater long term problem and even total collapse.
 
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Serb

Junior Member
Registered Member
Uhm, what do you mean here? In what way did the US "stall Chinese growth“ in any meaningful sense?
Sanctions?
Or the fact that the US's own poor economy is stalling world growth in general, and also slowed down Chinese economic growth?

If you are talking about the former, you should know that those doesn't matter as much as the media wants you to believe.

If you are talking about the latter, you really need to stop taking things out of context. Stalling Chinese economic growth, in the face of stalling global growth, as a result of a weak and on-the-brink-of-recession US economy, propped up temporarily by unlimited printing of dollars? Those are NOT real indicators of any kind of "stalling Chinese economic growth". In fact, it would be a good thing for China, because it is helping China to get rid of systematic economic/financial risks.

The fact that the Chinese stock market has pretty much been artificially kept at a relatively low point in the last decade, is ONLY good and nothing bad for China. It might make it look weak on growth on paper, but it is preventing strategic and systematic economic/financial risks. Imagine if the Chinese stock market is allowed by the Chinese government to bubble up to the 10k to 20k index point, it will be a juicy harvest for the US financial vultures. And this juicy harvest would have made China into the the next Japan.

Any one who know how capitalism works, would look at that high US stock market and recognize how big of a bubble it is. It is a bubble waiting to burst, and it should have burst a few years ago already, in order to keep the long term capitalist economy safe and healthy. Recession is a natural periodic occurrence to the capitalism economies, and it is NOT a bad thing systematically. Preventing it to happen, delaying its happening, is BAD for the capitalist economy, systematically. This will ONLY result in greater long term problem and even total collapse.


Those US sanctions have 2 functions, practically stalling Chinese growth (they don't accomplish much in this area).

But the second is that they hurt Chinese reputation, in the world. "Look we're giving them sanctions every two days, but they can't do much about it..."

China must either step up its sanction game, or respond in some other kind of way to preserve face.

They should also start threatening the US like they threaten China every other day.

Average person just listen to those US sanctions every other day and thinks "Those sanctions against China are really working, China must be so backward to be getting sanctioned on everything..."
 

pmc

Colonel
Registered Member
That point is another 4 years away. To develop nuclear based carrier 004, submarines type 095 and 096, H-20, and China is a complete superpower with its strenghts and weaknesses but a global superpower nonetheless.
A country cannot be global superpower without a Civil Aviation industry that world can depend on it. The importance of that industry will increase as high income world needs more humans due to post covid and ukraine environment. than there global elites personal jets and helicopters that they travel around those needs much more robust construction, reliability, amenities, comfort level , range and capability. Those sitting in Germanic world are more sophisticated you can already see what is happening in France its all result of Macron European project. he should have talked less and work more on French society.
Putin just dont want to use French choppers to French resort to sit outside. so he has to airlift these things . These are Presidential choppers only full size cargo planes can carry them long distance. now too many German official visiting India and Asia. it mean they have certain level of confidence.


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