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Does the ROC constitution allow the ruling party to declare independence, or contain any provisions to even do so? Likely wise does DPP have the required mandate to do so?
I doubt DPP is that stupid to declare independence outright and would likely get challenged by the opposition and / or the court. Besides, I imagine China would intervene via the back channel well in advance, should it become a real possibility.
I would prefer if China can fight the US without bloodshed for as long as possible, and more so if China can win the war without bloodshed.
Besides, what China truly needs is more time. Her military and technological mastery still haven't completely on par with the US-led West.
Who cares about the constitution if you got a rogue one in power? The constitution can still be amended if the rogue leader has broad popular support for amending the constitution.
Even if the government in Taipei does not have such intention, once Washington DC decides it's time, they would force Taipei to either agree or be purged with more pro-US elements in their administration. Then the US military would be flooding into Taiwan quickly.
Does it matter though? The fact that there was no legal way for southern states to leave the union didn't stop them from trying. It should be pretty obvious by now that the pan-greens have zero regards about RoC constitution, and is only paying lip-service to them.
When the pan-greens get sufficiently radicalized (from whatever sources), they could just do a self-coup/unilateral declaration of independence. Right now, they don't have that sort of control... yet. But if the US put their proverbial thumb on the scale, there is no telling what will happen.
No it does not, in fact to do so unilaterally would be considered unconstitutional and possibly treason (as you're basically declaring ROC is dead and replaced by something else). In order for them to declare independence they have to do it through a referendum.
If the US is dumb enough to actually deploy combat units to Taiwan before China moving a finger, then it can be seen as an act of war, wouldn't be sanctioned by the UN nor supported by the Western allies. That actually would give China the moral high ground.
Law serves hegemony, not the only way around...
This thing will be decided by the victor of a kinetic war...
The only real rules in this world are the laws of physics itself
And it was ever thus
For this c$nt like behaviour, all I can say is I hope the Ukrainian war continues to go even more poorly for the USA and that it harms their economy even more then now and hopefully with a little bit of luck that all those American c$nts in that nation as foreign mercenaries end up being kill in vast numbers, to the point where the US government ends up in hot water as a result. Really, nothing will teach these trash the lesson they deserve unless that actually start to feel the pain
Sure but operationally if you declare independence without referendum you run the risk of facing an uprising from some ROC forces who might declare this to be a rebellion against ROC. While PLA war planners cannot count on this or risk making the same mistake as Putin, DPP themselves will have to factor this into their calculation.
They have to amend the constitution, to give up all territorial claims outside the few islands ROC control and allow amending the official name of the country. Under current law, this has to be done by referendum.
KMT used to complain that they were made to operate as brake pads - DPP had a free hand to put up all kinds of irresponsible motions, and KMT had to fight each one down. At one point KMT wised up and said we not gonna be brake pads anymore, let's see how far DPP dared to go. Sure enough, some mid-level DPPer put up a motion to amend the constitution as first step towards formal secession, and English Vegetable made them retract it.
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As to whether DPP could do it illegally, while being totally contemptuous of their 国军 they are also afraid what the military would do in such an event. Until they are 99% sure the military would side with them I don't think they will do it.