QBZ-191 service rifle family

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Two high-resolution, crystal clear images of QBU-191.

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LawLeadsToPeace

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Does anyone know what is happening with the keyholing in this video
We had a full discussion that should be sufficient enough to explain why. Since it was too long, here is the starting point:
Hello, I found this video. I heard people say that there is a keyhole issue with the 191 since the barrel is wobbly, and has poor bullet spread, can anyone provide context on this video?
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TerraN_EmpirE

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The video showed close quarters shooting against a solid barrier. Which with live a ammunition is a risky business.
as such it was likely firing under pressure soft ammunition. The barrel length of the QBZ 191 and QBZ 192 series is shorter then the QBZ95 but not so short as to generate the kinds of effects that should produce this effect without some significant questions as to the combat effectiveness for general infantry.
Small caliber high velocity intermediate class ammunition keyholing is going to be dropping energy very quickly. Even more than SMG ammunition.
 

Pacific

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Does anyone know what is happening with the keyholing in this video
This again huh? It's a Strategic Foo-you Agency Psyop. Don't interfere with our comrades while they are working. This kind of operation won't be able to fool anyone with a brain, but it can work on the general populace. And if lucky, US politicians, members of the US military, and "China experts" in the defence research establishment.

To be honest, there's really no point in talking/arguing with these people. They can't be convinced no matter what. They want to believe in something emotionally, and you can't debate with an emotion.

They want to believe that a country that has produced firearms and ammo for decades and has exported those firearms and ammo to the US for people to test, all of a sudden can't make a bullet go straight. Hell, there are many, many videos of the QBZ series actually firing "normally". Let them believe, ignorance + arrogance deserves punishment.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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I mean...PLA miltech enthusiasts are growing by the day given its rapid advancements so I think it's only fair to address the subject every now and then. The best way to convince someone is through education, not by force.
Agreed. Regardless of what they post, as long as they post and respond in good faith, we should respond to it in a mature manner and provide sufficient reasoning and evidence. If we do that, we won’t look like a bunch of prideful simpletons like we see on Reddit, f16.net, YouTube and etc, and we can get people to understand what actually is going on. Responding to them by saying “tHaT’s a CIA pSyCh Op” will make you look like those users from the sites I just mentioned.
 
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