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tokenanalyst

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China spends 1.2% of its GDP on defense, nothing increases Chinese nationalism moods more than Japan's arming. China has ample pockets, if Japan increases the spending from 1% to 2%, China's increase by half percent would be a worse deal for Japan than the current balance of 1.2% to 1%.
The are going to do a tax hike that could hit economic growth to...pay for expensive US weapons. They are going to take money out the population to give it to the US industrial complex. :confused:.
Also is not how how much a nation can expend but how efficiently expend it, with 1.2% GDP China is maybe getting more weapons and more efficient weapons faster than countries that expend more. Do anyone in Japan sit and thought, "do we really need to expend this much money or we can efficientize our procurement program to get the best out it?"
That is why US has this perception, China is investing a third of a what the US expend and getting more out it. The military industrial base of China allows for that, including making their own military semiconductors independently.
 

Janiz

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Do anyone in Japan sit and thought, "do we really need to expend this much money or we can efficientize our procurement program to get the best out it?"
Indeed, they sit down and think "It was surely the right decision if thye're writing posts like this pretending like they're being concerned about the wellbeing of Japanese people".
 

InfamousMeow

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China spends 1.2% of its GDP on defense, nothing increases Chinese nationalism moods more than Japan's arming. China has ample pockets, if Japan increases the spending from 1% to 2%, China's increase by half percent would be a worse deal for Japan than the current balance of 1.2% to 1%.

Don't China has 1.7% rather than 1.2% of GDP as military expenditure?
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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Don't China has 1.7% rather than 1.2% of GDP as military expenditure?

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2022 Defence budget = 1.45 T RMB

China's 2022 GDP will be about 120T RMB, in 2021 it was about 114T.

That's about 1.21% of the GDP for the defense budget in China.
 

phrozenflame

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Eitherway, it seems like Japan wants to be more than just a passive player in Taiwan drama, otherwise, there is no point for them to do this kind of spending. They could just sit and do nothing, it's not like China will hit Japan for lulz in Taiwan crises., infact China would prefer Japan is not involved, Japan's allies would prefer they participate. 2% of GDP on defense is still sustainable. So Japan wants to do more than 'sit and watch' IMO.
 

ficker22

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Eitherway, it seems like Japan wants to be more than just a passive player in Taiwan drama.
They know the rules ...


Will die out anyway with their current demographic trend.
 

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BoraTas

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China spends 1.2% of its GDP on defense, nothing increases Chinese nationalism moods more than Japan's arming. China has ample pockets, if Japan increases the spending from 1% to 2%, China's increase by half percent would be a worse deal for Japan than the current balance of 1.2% to 1%.
Another historic self-own by the USA or Japan. Just 18B is absolutely nothing with the defense industry Japan has. They just removed one of the dilemmas of the PRC and gave it a propaganda point that will be very useful in Asia.

What Japan is doing is the same as showing a bat to the police. You may think it is a deterrent but it actually worsens your security because the police have a lot more room to escalate compared to you. They will build 1000 missiles in 10 years to target China. They will get 4000 missiles pointed at them in return.

Basically AUKUS V2.0. A lot of MSM fanfare but nothing substantial and political hot potato. If Japan was smart it would apologize for its WW2 crimes, stop using IJN symbolism, negotiate an arms control treaty with PRC and decrease US presence and would reform its defense industry. Declaring China a threat and then increasing your military spending by 33% is just wasting money and getting more missiles pointed at you.
 

InfamousMeow

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2022 Defence budget = 1.45 T RMB

China's 2022 GDP will be about 120T RMB, in 2021 it was about 114T.

That's about 1.21% of the GDP for the defense budget in China.

Thank you for your information!


I saw that SIPRI estimates the Chinese figure to be 1.7%. I checked their breakdown of the estimation and I find them pretty reasonable estimates of the defense expenditure for China. What is your take on their estimates and their methods?
 
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