The War in the Ukraine

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Tam

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Lancet hit a Ukrainian T-80 tank. I would expect the ERA to go off and damage the tank but overall I don't expect the tank to be destroyed and the crew will likely survive this. Tank won't be back in action after repairs, so this can be classed as a 'mission kill'.



Ukrainian troops surrendering to Russian troops, the view captured by drone.



Drone with Leer-3, which is some kind of electronic warfare suite. Among the things it does is to intercept and overhear communications.

 
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baykalov

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Official figures from Kiev, decide for yourself whether to believe these numbers:

Automatic translation:

Podolyak announced Ukraine's losses in the war with Russia

Ukrainian military died much less than the civilian population, said Mykhailo Podolyak.

The losses of the Ukrainian army during the war unleashed by the aggressor country Russia amount to 13 thousand dead. This figure was announced by adviser to the head of the Office of the President Mikhail Podolyak on Thursday, December 1.

"Undoubtedly, Mrs. Ursula (European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen - ed.) was mistaken - this is obvious. Therefore, they removed this video, removed these figures. We have official estimates of the General Staff, which are voiced by the Supreme Commander. They reach from 10 thousand up to 12.5-13 thousand dead... Yes, we have more injuries," Podolyak said.

At the same time, he stressed that the number of dead Ukrainian civilians is "definitely not 20 thousand." This figure, according to Podolyak, is much higher, especially considering how many mass graves and torture chambers are found after the de-occupation of Ukrainian territories.

“We say at various international platforms that Russia is not fighting the military – it is obviously losing the war there. Russia is fighting the civilian population,” Podolyak said.

Speaking about the losses of the aggressors, the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office stated that "Russia has practically lost its contract army." In his opinion, we are talking about about 100 thousand dead and up to 150 thousand seriously wounded, sick, missing.

"This is a very difficult story for the Russian Federation... 200-250 thousand total losses in this war. Otherwise, no mobilization is needed," Podolyak summed up.

Recall, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the total losses of the Russian Federation are approaching 90 thousand. In the past 24 hours alone, 550 Russian invaders were killed.

It was also reported that Russia suffered record losses in Ukraine in November.

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kokole said:
Speaking about the losses of the aggressors, the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office stated that "Russia has practically lost its contract army." In his opinion, we are talking about about 100 thousand dead and up to 150 thousand seriously wounded, sick, missing.

"This is a very difficult story for the Russian Federation... 200-250 thousand total losses in this war. Otherwise, no mobilization is needed," Podolyak summed up.
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Russia lost 250.000 people so thats why they did a partial mobilization, Ukraine only lost 13.000 and thats why they have done 8 mobilizations and are one mobilization away of forcing women into service...

Schrödinger's Ukranian Army.
 
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kokole said:
Official figures from Kiev, decide for yourself whether to believe these numbers:

Automatic translation:

Podolyak announced Ukraine's losses in the war with Russia

Ukrainian military died much less than the civilian population, said Mykhailo Podolyak.

The losses of the Ukrainian army during the war unleashed by the aggressor country Russia amount to 13 thousand dead. This figure was announced by adviser to the head of the Office of the President Mikhail Podolyak on Thursday, December 1.

"Undoubtedly, Mrs. Ursula (European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen - ed.) was mistaken - this is obvious. Therefore, they removed this video, removed these figures. We have official estimates of the General Staff, which are voiced by the Supreme Commander. They reach from 10 thousand up to 12.5-13 thousand dead... Yes, we have more injuries," Podolyak said.

At the same time, he stressed that the number of dead Ukrainian civilians is "definitely not 20 thousand." This figure, according to Podolyak, is much higher, especially considering how many mass graves and torture chambers are found after the de-occupation of Ukrainian territories.

“We say at various international platforms that Russia is not fighting the military – it is obviously losing the war there. Russia is fighting the civilian population,” Podolyak said.

Speaking about the losses of the aggressors, the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office stated that "Russia has practically lost its contract army." In his opinion, we are talking about about 100 thousand dead and up to 150 thousand seriously wounded, sick, missing.

"This is a very difficult story for the Russian Federation... 200-250 thousand total losses in this war. Otherwise, no mobilization is needed," Podolyak summed up.

Recall, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the total losses of the Russian Federation are approaching 90 thousand. In the past 24 hours alone, 550 Russian invaders were killed.

It was also reported that Russia suffered record losses in Ukraine in November.

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This being an artillery duel, we are supposed to believe that the army that is firing 10 times more arty and has 10 - times more captives than the opponent - has ten times the losses.
 
baykalov

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Topazchen said:
This being an artillery duel, we are supposed to believe that the army that is firing 10 times more arty and has 10 - times more captives than the opponent - has ten times the losses.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Podolyak also says that the Russian army is so weak and powerless that it has no chance against the powerful Ukrainian army. That's why the Russian army fights civilians and that's why civilian casualties are more than military killed. According to Ursula, the numbers were backwards, but she was "wrong." According to Podolyak, Russia killed over 100,000 civilians.

The same Podolyak called a few weeks ago for NATO to bomb Iran because it supplies drones to Russia.
 
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I think the game from Russian time has a deadline.

If they don't fninsh the SMO this winter then by next summer the conditions will be less favourable than now.

The USA will manage to gear up the ammunition and weapon production in half year time, during summertime there is less need for fuel, the trenches are more liveable, means harder to find and destroy the enemy.

In -10 celsius is very hard to do maintance without proper heated areas, the days short, electricity needed for lighting.

During summer time all of this is way easier, less need for fuel/electricity , maintanance of equipment possible on field/roadside.

From Russian side there is no real benefit from industrial side, the mibilisation already happened, the industry is on full gear.


So, in the next three month there needs to be a big push from Russian side.


After this winter the odds become less favourable for Russia.
 
phrozenflame

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kokole said:
Official figures from Kiev, decide for yourself whether to believe these numbers:

Automatic translation:

Podolyak announced Ukraine's losses in the war with Russia

Ukrainian military died much less than the civilian population, said Mykhailo Podolyak.

The losses of the Ukrainian army during the war unleashed by the aggressor country Russia amount to 13 thousand dead. This figure was announced by adviser to the head of the Office of the President Mikhail Podolyak on Thursday, December 1.

"Undoubtedly, Mrs. Ursula (European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen - ed.) was mistaken - this is obvious. Therefore, they removed this video, removed these figures. We have official estimates of the General Staff, which are voiced by the Supreme Commander. They reach from 10 thousand up to 12.5-13 thousand dead... Yes, we have more injuries," Podolyak said.

At the same time, he stressed that the number of dead Ukrainian civilians is "definitely not 20 thousand." This figure, according to Podolyak, is much higher, especially considering how many mass graves and torture chambers are found after the de-occupation of Ukrainian territories.

“We say at various international platforms that Russia is not fighting the military – it is obviously losing the war there. Russia is fighting the civilian population,” Podolyak said.

Speaking about the losses of the aggressors, the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office stated that "Russia has practically lost its contract army." In his opinion, we are talking about about 100 thousand dead and up to 150 thousand seriously wounded, sick, missing.

"This is a very difficult story for the Russian Federation... 200-250 thousand total losses in this war. Otherwise, no mobilization is needed," Podolyak summed up.

Recall, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the total losses of the Russian Federation are approaching 90 thousand. In the past 24 hours alone, 550 Russian invaders were killed.

It was also reported that Russia suffered record losses in Ukraine in November.

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Doesnt look real at all even by shit propaganda standards, this is like Sadddam Hussien level of propaganda.
 
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