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[FriedButter]

There is a theory what remains of the Ukraine joins Poland, putting them into NATO and the EU automatically, instant free EU money and NATO article 5 protection.

I don’t think the Poles want the whatever remain of Ukraine. Just a specific part of it. Tho if the poles do try it then I wonder if the Russians should bother to deal with it. If they allow NATO to just referendum Lyiv and then separate it from Ukraine. That would puts them in a hot spot over the 4 regions Russia is about to take lol.

 

[Helius]

No way. Keeping the pipelines as was would cost next to nothing. And these were multiple billion investments. Why the heck would the Russians blow up their own pipeline when they can just as easily turn off the taps.

Thing is, it's not the Russians' pipeline that got blown up though.

I'm just play the devil's advocate anyway. I'm also of the opinion it makes less sense for Russia to blow up NS.... However, if there's ever any reason for Russia to do it, they surely wouldn't do it on their own section.

 

[xypher]

Russia has an economy the size of UK and furthermore, Russia's role was never to be a gdp tank anyways. Russia is a resource bank for the East, and it remains just as functional in that role now as ever.

Sacrificing EU for Russia is a terrible trade. It would be a victory if you're not looking at the fact that US isn't challenging Russia. Its challenging China, who goes unscathed out of this.

While the EU, whose bloc allowed US to surpass China in gdp if you count the EU countries on the US side, is now getting deindustrialized with much of said industry going directly to China.

US had likely planned since a long time to create tensions and increase their activity with the separatists on Taiwan province. But there again, they get cucked by the Ukraine war, being forced to keep their eyes there meant that they didn't manage to muster a reply at all as the PLA rehearsed comprehensive defenses over the straits and around the island. If the war wasn't active, then US may have decided to further increase their aggression or even outright invade.

Not only economy but also military equipment and manpower, it costs nigh nothing to the US - all the "donations" to Ukraine instantly come back as profits for American MIC.

Your analysis would be 100% true IF EU was always a "yes-man" for the US but prior to the war they started getting uppity - calls for EU army, refusal to drop NS-2, Huawei was not banned everywhere, etc. The incoming economic damage and future dependence on the US not only for defence but also for energy will squash that kind of dissent, EU will become a full-time US bitch even worse than Japan. The US keeps its "allies" strong enough but not too strong so that they can always quickly put them down if they start challenging them. Now that the EU is becoming dependent on the US in two crucial sectors while losing a lot of its industry (some of it also went to the US), it will be easy for the US to control them. I expect the incoming visits of Scholz & Macron to be complete waste of time.

 

[Peas]

Based on a very rough translation by Google Lens, a referendum on whether Lyiv should separate from Ukraine and join Poland(?)

When were these photos taken?

Recently
Holy crap

 

[Atomicfrog]

Based on a very rough translation by Google Lens, a referendum on whether Lyiv should separate from Ukraine and join Poland(?)

When were these photos taken?

They need to push for Odessa fast... if it's real and they are going like Russia with referendum annexation, the situtation could turn extremely wild, way more than presently.

 

[Peas]

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Seems we should start to prepare for impact now my friends, prepare some food, water, warm clothes for you and your family

 

[emblem21]

It is me, or are all European female officials and leaders sexually frustrated?

Well there was some stats that well state that many older European females go to Africa for a guilt free fu@k session so I wouldn’t be surprised that these woman probably wanted to get out more. Sadly enough it seems these people just can’t be satisfied by ordinary means but I guess now that the cold is coming in, they might have to do anything to keep warm so there is th. It’s a pity that while these woman are hungry for such things, it doesn’t really translate into actual intelligence when it comes to governance

Gigachad Brandon.

This man seriously should burn in hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy is a secret pedo given some of the weird shit he has been sprouting lately

I reckon sooner or later regardless of what the EU leaders say, their is going to come a day when the USA screws up so bad that it is going to unite the entire world in wanting the USA complete gone. And the best part is, is that China doesn’t need to do jack sh!t against the USA because all these screw ups is happening because someone forgot to make Brandon take us flaming meds and if that doesn’t work, put him into a house (just not the White House)

 

[Biscuits]

Not only economy but also military equipment and manpower, it costs nigh nothing to the US - all the "donations" to Ukraine instantly come back as profits for American MIC.

Your analysis would be 100% true IF EU was always a "yes-man" for the US but prior to the war they started getting uppity - calls for EU army, refusal to drop NS-2, Huawei was not banned everywhere, etc. The incoming economic damage and future dependence on the US not only for defence but also for energy will squash that kind of dissent, EU will become a full-time US bitch even worse than Japan. The US keeps its "allies" strong enough but not too strong so that they can always quickly put them down if they start challenging them. Now that the EU is becoming dependent on the US in two crucial sectors while losing a lot of its industry (some of it also went to the US), it will be easier for the US to control them. I expect the incoming visits of Scholz & Macron to be complete waste of time.

US always had control over EU, they were just allowed token criticism in order to keep up a veneer of legitimacy. West Germany and NATO were built off of nazi officials that owe a life debt to US pardoning them. You really think these ex nazis and their successors had any agency in their decisions?

Only France is a bit more independent, but France is outnumbered by Germany and their puppet migrant worker states like Poland and Lithuania.

A dictator is strong when he allows criticism. Because he is so secure in the knowledge that he sits safe, controlled criticism can be allowed. When he is clamping down on any form of dissent, no matter how small, that shows weakness. The worst crackdowns happen right before he is overthrown.

What I'm saying is, things are getting worse now in EU, but it is better for EU because before things get good, things need to get worse.

And this is not a desirable outcome for America. It is much better to have an Europe with industry, ability to innovate and well fed population that organically takes US side because they feel like the future is with America.

No dictator actually wants to clamp down on their subjects, and "Europe's last dictator" is no exception to that.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Not only economy but also military equipment and manpower, it costs nigh nothing to the US - all the "donations" to Ukraine instantly come back as profits for American MIC.

Your analysis would be 100% true IF EU was always a "yes-man" for the US but prior to the war they started getting uppity - calls for EU army, refusal to drop NS-2, Huawei was not banned everywhere, etc. The incoming economic damage and future dependence on the US not only for defence but also for energy will squash that kind of dissent, EU will become a full-time US bitch even worse than Japan. The US keeps its "allies" strong enough but not too strong so that they can always quickly put them down if they start challenging them. Now that the EU is becoming dependent on the US in two crucial sectors while losing a lot of its industry (some of it also went to the US), it will be easy for the US to control them. I expect the incoming visits of Scholz & Macron to be complete waste of time.

I also believe that this situation is not favorable to the US. The US probably wanted either to take the Ukraine into NATO with Russia unwilling to fight or to have a war that drains Russia but it did not think that Russia could economically fight and drain Europe. The EU was still a yes-man for the US; sure there are some complaints when you order countries to do things against their own benefit to serve US interests but these countries did it, just like slaves complain before completing grueling tasks. Huawei was banned; I don't know why you say it's not banned anywhere. The EU agrees to the tech embargo against China and to work with the US on technology. ASML, scrapped all EUVL deliveries to China because the US ordered the Dutch to do so.

The real fight that will determine whether the US is succeeded by China as the next paramount superpower or if it keeps its crown has nothing to do with Ukraine, or Russia for that matter. The real fight that matters is the tech war with China; if China wins, America is done. America cannot innovate beyond China and is basically watching itself get overrun by Chinese advances in every field. It does not have the strength in itself to compete against China (it has better tools that it accumulated throughout the years, but that advantage is waning, and it has a much smaller STEM population than China and its people are not nearly as smart or driven as the Chinese) so its last lifeline is to call upon others lend their strength to it and this call is successful in Europe. When the Europeans are too poor to put great finanical strength into tech innovation and pass that onto the US, it hurts America and benefits China. Russia can't be of much help to China in the tech war but if it can neutralize the EU as a US partner while expanding itself into the Ukraine, it will be 1.) great for China, 2.) bad for the US, and 3.) painful but good for Russia.

 

[xypher]

I also believe that this situation is not favorable to the US. The US probably wanted either to take the Ukraine into NATO with Russia unwilling to fight or to have a war that drains Russia but it did not think that Russia could economically fight and drain Europe. The EU was still a yes-man for the US; sure there are some complaints when you order countries to do things against their own benefit to serve US hegemony but these countries did it, just like slaves complain before completing grueling tasks. Huawei was banned; I don't know why you say it's not banned anywhere. The EU agrees to the tech embargo against China and to work with the US on technology. ASML, scrapped all EUVL deliveries to China because the US ordered the Dutch to do so.

The real fight that will determine whether the US is succeeded by China as the next paramount superpower or if it keeps its crown has nothing to do with Ukraine, or Russia for that matter. The real fight that matters is the tech war with China; if China wins, America is done. America cannot innovate beyond China and is basically watching itself get overrun by Chinese advances in every field. It does not have the strength in itself to compete against China (it has better tools that it accumulated throughout the years, but that advantage is waning, and it has a much smaller STEM population than China and its people are not nearly as smart or driven as the Chinese) so its last lifeline is to call upon others lend their strength to it and this call is successful in Europe. When the Europeans are too poor to put great finanical strength into tech innovation, it hurts America and benefits China. Russia can't be of much help to China in the tech war but if it can neutralize the EU as a US partner while expanding itself into the Ukraine, it will be 1.) great for China, 2.) bad for the US, and 3.) painful but good for Russia.

Actually many countries did not rush to ban Huawei, even slave states like the UK. Then Germany showed the middle finger to the US when the latter demanded to shut down NS-2. In the case of ASML, the US had colossal leverage - the EUV light source is produced in the US by an American company bought by ASML, and the only alternative is Japanese Gigaphoton, so essentially no alternatives if they piss off the US. Plus France was floating the idea of a European army that would obviously weaken the US grip. Now European economies are entering massive recessions, their currency is weak, the industries are fleeing (plenty go to the US, btw), and they are forced to import expensive American energy sources. It's game over now. The scenario did not go the perfect way but the outcomes are still acceptable.

Agree with the second paragraph - tech war is the key battleground and there're signals that the US is not doing that great on that front.