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China warns of 'countermeasures' as U.S. senator visits Taiwan
Tsai meets Blackburn on Friday, welcoming 3rd recent congressional delegation
TAIPEI (Reuters) -- A U.S. lawmaker on the Senate Commerce and Armed Services committees arrived in Taiwan on Thursday for the third visit by a U.S. dignitary this month, defying pressure from Beijing to halt the trips.
Sen. Marsha Blackburn arrived in Taiwan's capital, Taipei, on board a U.S. military aircraft, live television footage from the downtown Songshan Airport showed. She was welcomed on the airport tarmac by Douglas Hsu, director general of Taiwan's Foreign Affairs Ministry, Blackburn's office said.
"Taiwan is our strongest partner in the Indo-Pacific region. Regular high-level visits to Taipei are long-standing U.S. policy," Blackburn said in a statement. "I will not be bullied by Communist China into turning my back on the island."
China, which claims Taiwan as its own territory against the strong objections of the democratically elected government in Taipei, launched military drills near the island after U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited in early August.
Taiwan's Foreign Ministry said Blackburn was due to meet President Tsai Ing-wen during her trip, which ends on Saturday, as well as top security official Wellington Koo and Foreign Minister Joseph Wu.
"The two sides will exchange views extensively on issues such as Taiwan-U.S. security and economic and trade relations," the ministry added in a brief statement.
Liu Pengyu, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, vowed that Beijing would take unspecified "resolute countermeasures" in response to what he called the U.S. "provocations."
Taiwan's presidential office said Tsai will meet Blackburn on Friday morning. "The relevant visit once again proves that the U.S. does not want to see stability across the Taiwan Strait and has spared no effort to stir up confrontation between the two sides and interfere in China's internal affairs," Liu said in a statement.
Blackburn, a Republican from Tennessee, earlier voiced support for the trip by Pelosi, a member of U.S. President Joe Biden's Democratic Party. Pelosi's visit infuriated China, which responded with test launches of ballistic missiles over Taipei for the first time, and by cutting some lines of dialogue with Washington.
Pelosi was followed around a week later by a group of five other U.S. lawmakers, with China's military responding by carrying out more exercises near Taiwan.
The Biden administration has sought to keep tensions between Washington and Beijing -- inflamed by the visits -- from boiling over into a conflict, reiterating that such congressional trips are routine.
"Members of Congress and elected officials have gone to Taiwan for decades and will continue to do so, and this is in line with our longstanding 'One China' policy," a White House National Security Council spokesperson said in response to a question about Blackburn's visit.
The U.S. has no formal diplomatic relations with Taiwan but is bound by law to provide the island with the means to defend itself.
China has never ruled out using force to bring Taiwan under its control.
Taiwan's government says the People's Republic of China has never ruled the island and so has no right to claim it, and that only its 23 million people can decide their future.
Non-paywall:
I would say increase the defense budget from 1.3 to 2% of GDP.
This current Taiwan crisis is not over yet.
PRC should just do more, and get closer to Taiwan, move more pieces closer.
Anything can happen, might still go hot before end of August
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Forget it comrade, there will be no war anytime soon in the Taiwan Straits.
Mainland China has too many cards to play right now, and the invasion card is the last one to be played.
Until then, things probably will get more difficult for the Americans, to improve their military positioning. Right now, only one side is improving their military positioning.
As for what the PLA can do right now, maybe start flying more drones for close up pictures, like what we just saw.
Probably just one idea out of many. LOL!
Why they send their bit@he’s to Taiwan. Are the men in the USA too much p@say or something. The USA think that they can do this without consequence or some shit. By the end of this year, the US economy will collapse and China is going to be the one that makes it a reality without a single shot made. Not to mention, the US really does think that pissing off China and Russia at the same time is a good idea for a weapons sales pitch or something. Sooner or later when China and Russia finally does counteract at a time of their choosing and at a time when the US is weakened enough, don’t expect the USA to bounce back like pretend they do. The USA should also seriously look at Syria/Iraq and the fact almost everyone in the region wants the USA to f@ck off, because their human rights bullshit while stealing oil is really pissing everyone in the region right off. One day, the USA is going to lose access to these resources and Chinas consumer goods, can these POS afford to keep on pissing everyone off, instead of a New World Order that would be lead by the USA, it’s going to be a fair world order lead by Russia and China and the global south while the west (mostly the USA) will end up being given the minority during the 1960s treatment.China warns of 'countermeasures' as U.S. senator visits Taiwan
Tsai meets Blackburn on Friday, welcoming 3rd recent congressional delegation
TAIPEI (Reuters) -- A U.S. lawmaker on the Senate Commerce and Armed Services committees arrived in Taiwan on Thursday for the third visit by a U.S. dignitary this month, defying pressure from Beijing to halt the trips.
Sen. Marsha Blackburn arrived in Taiwan's capital, Taipei, on board a U.S. military aircraft, live television footage from the downtown Songshan Airport showed. She was welcomed on the airport tarmac by Douglas Hsu, director general of Taiwan's Foreign Affairs Ministry, Blackburn's office said.
"Taiwan is our strongest partner in the Indo-Pacific region. Regular high-level visits to Taipei are long-standing U.S. policy," Blackburn said in a statement. "I will not be bullied by Communist China into turning my back on the island."
China, which claims Taiwan as its own territory against the strong objections of the democratically elected government in Taipei, launched military drills near the island after U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited in early August.
Taiwan's Foreign Ministry said Blackburn was due to meet President Tsai Ing-wen during her trip, which ends on Saturday, as well as top security official Wellington Koo and Foreign Minister Joseph Wu.
"The two sides will exchange views extensively on issues such as Taiwan-U.S. security and economic and trade relations," the ministry added in a brief statement.
Liu Pengyu, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, vowed that Beijing would take unspecified "resolute countermeasures" in response to what he called the U.S. "provocations."
Taiwan's presidential office said Tsai will meet Blackburn on Friday morning. "The relevant visit once again proves that the U.S. does not want to see stability across the Taiwan Strait and has spared no effort to stir up confrontation between the two sides and interfere in China's internal affairs," Liu said in a statement.
Blackburn, a Republican from Tennessee, earlier voiced support for the trip by Pelosi, a member of U.S. President Joe Biden's Democratic Party. Pelosi's visit infuriated China, which responded with test launches of ballistic missiles over Taipei for the first time, and by cutting some lines of dialogue with Washington.
Pelosi was followed around a week later by a group of five other U.S. lawmakers, with China's military responding by carrying out more exercises near Taiwan.
The Biden administration has sought to keep tensions between Washington and Beijing -- inflamed by the visits -- from boiling over into a conflict, reiterating that such congressional trips are routine.
"Members of Congress and elected officials have gone to Taiwan for decades and will continue to do so, and this is in line with our longstanding 'One China' policy," a White House National Security Council spokesperson said in response to a question about Blackburn's visit.
The U.S. has no formal diplomatic relations with Taiwan but is bound by law to provide the island with the means to defend itself.
China has never ruled out using force to bring Taiwan under its control.
Taiwan's government says the People's Republic of China has never ruled the island and so has no right to claim it, and that only its 23 million people can decide their future.
Non-paywall:
I would say increase the defense budget from 1.3 to 2% of GDP.
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Comments below.
1. China still has a veto in the UN security council. Plus China's power in International Organisations and the UN is actually increasing.
2. Chinese military spending (1.7% of GDP) is even more demilitarised than Taiwan (2.1% of GDP) on a relative basis. Japan does have scope to increase military spending on a relative basis yes. But that still doesn't change how China creates a Japan-sized economy every 4 years.
3. Taiwan is an island that can't be resupplied. Months long urban battles are unlikely to happen.
4. By 2035, I expect China's stock of advanced weapons to have increased by almost 3x even if China's continues spending at current military spending of a modest 1.7% of GDP. This would be far more than any additional capability that the US can organise for a 2035 timeframe and be able to comprehensively defeat the US in the Western Pacific in 2035.
So I would argue it is better to delay another 2 decades.
Comments below.
1. China still has a veto in the UN security council. Plus China's power in International Organisations and the UN is actually increasing.
2. Chinese military spending (1.7% of GDP) is even more demilitarised than Taiwan (2.1% of GDP) on a relative basis. Japan does have scope to increase military spending on a relative basis yes. But that still doesn't change how China creates a Japan-sized economy every 4 years.
3. Taiwan is an island that can't be resupplied. Months long urban battles are unlikely to happen.
4. By 2035, I expect China's stock of advanced weapons to have increased by almost 3x even if China's continues spending at current military spending of a modest 1.7% of GDP. This would be far more than any additional capability that the US can organise for a 2035 timeframe and be able to comprehensively defeat the US in the Western Pacific in 2035. That would deter any US involvement.
So I would argue it is better to delay another 2 decades.
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3 billion is nothing, considering that the U.S. wasted 6-7 trillion in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.
Meanwhile in the U.S., 5 "thousand-year flood" in a month:
Can't really argue with this: "US Americans truly have a unique combination of evil and stupidity. One of these alone would be manageable; having both together is what's called American Exceptionalism"
Despite stupidity and evilness, China and the U.S. won't decouple anytime soon.
In stark contrast to Taiwan, S. Korea snubbed Pelosi compeletly:
The advocates of Japanese militarism are disappointed that there has been no increased calls for militarism since Abe's assassination
The woman is looking for political points for "i'm tough on chyna" for her ad campaign. The more I watch these clowns, the more it shows the flaws of "western democrazy" It also doesn't make sense for Tsai to be constantly provocative, but since it gets her a edge of winning or money into her pocket...