Hilarious if true, hard to believe tbh
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Good.
Not good, do more investment in South East Asia and non-European BRI members, because Europe proved itself to be a 51st state of US, and would likely steal or "confiscate" those assets and financial investment at the drop of a hat if US asked them to do so.
I think indonesia has more potential, they have the population and natural resources. Politics has been a mess in the past, corruption terrible but the potential is there if they can get it right.
I hope Chinese international students can follow the trend. Stop spending hard earned cash to study second rate universities or language schools here. Outside of a few good universities, rest are really average.
GT investigates: ‘There are many options other than Australia’ – Chinese firms on why they ‘abandon’ market
Hostile business environment turns investors away
By GT staff reporters Published: Jun 29, 2022 10:29 PM
Photo taken on March 14, 2017 shows a bird's eye view of Darwin Port's cargo wharf in Australia. Photo: Xinhua
A recent industry report showing sharp drop of Chinese investment in Australia has led certain Australian media outlet to declare that Chinese investors were "fast abandoning Australia" and were "flocking to Europe and countries" along the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
Many Australian media reports about the declining Chinese investment in the country tend to attribute the trend only to diplomatic tensions between the two countries in recent years, while refraining from explaining exactly why Chinese investors are leaving the country.
In interviews with the Global Times, several Chinese business representatives describe an increasingly hostile and discriminatory business environment in Australia evidenced by excessive regulatory scrutiny of Chinese investments as well as growing anti-China sentiment in the broader Australian society. Under such an environment, some clearly stated that "there are many options in the world other than Australia" and they would not "put all eggs in one basket."
In an example of excessive regulatory security of Chinese businesses by Australian authorities, a representative of a major listed Chinese firm in Australia told the Global Times that Australia's Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB) has asked the company to submit some information that involved personal privacy or business secrets.
The FIRB required the company to provide complete and traceable proof of funds during filing, including legitimate sources of funds from all of the company's major shareholders, the representative said on the condition of anonymity.
"In the filing, a major shareholder's source of funds was listed as the sale of his own property, along with a contract for the sale and bank transfer records. However, the FIRB then asked us to provide legal sources of funds for the shareholder's purchase, which went back more than a decade and was hard to find," said the representative, adding that the company eventually gave up on investing in Australia.
"For Chinese companies going overseas, there are many options to choose other than putting all eggs in one basket with Australia," the representative said with obvious frustration.
That frustration is apparently common among Chinese firms in Australia. In 2021, Chinese investment in Australia declined by 69 percent from A$2.5 billion ($1.9 billion) in 2020 to A$800 million, falling to its lowest level in the past 15 years since 2007, according to a report by KPMG and the University of Sydney released in April.
Chinese investment has been diverted from countries such as the US and Australia to the EU and countries involved in the China-proposed BRI, the report said.
Chinese official data also point to a growing trend of Chinese investment along the BRI and Europe. The flows and stocks of China's outbound direct investment (ODI) remain among the world's top three in 2021. Of China's total ODI in 2021, 936.69 billion yuan ($145.19 billion), 14.8 percent flocked to countries involved in BRI, and Chinese investment in Europe grew by about 25 percent year-on-year, official data showed.
In a clear indication of the shift of Chinese investments away from Australia, a Chinese wine trader told the Global Times that his company's previous investment in Australian wine imports has been completely diverted to wines from Europe and South America amid growing difficulties in doing businesses with Australia.
Since mid-2017, Australia has been constantly undermining its relations with China, playing the role of a "pioneer" in the US' anti-China campaign. Chinese investments in Australia started a rapid decline in 2018, when the Australian government banned Huawei from participating in the country's 5G network construction citing "national security."
In line with the Australian government's hostile approach toward China, Australian public opinion toward China has also fallen sharply, according to the 2022 Lowy Institute poll published on late Tuesday, more indications of the increasingly hostile environment for Chinese businesses in the country.
The poll showed that 63 percent of Australians say China is "more of a security threat" to Australia in 2022, compared to 12 percent in 2018, while 33 percent say China is "more of an economic partner" to Australia, compared to 82 percent in 2018.
For Chinese investors, such a huge jump in hostility toward China means reconsidering business strategies.
A Chinese investor, who has been exporting wine and other food products from Australia for nearly 20 years, told the Global Times that many Chinese companies have put their investment intentions in Australia on hold, and investors are also taking a "wait-and-see" attitude.
"The new Australian government's attitude toward China is not clear. It sometimes makes positive statements, which are softer than the previous government's tone; However, the attitude of the Anthony Albanese administration on some matters of principle makes many Chinese investors feel disappointed and confused," the veteran investor said.
In addition to regulatory security and hostility, insiders from a number of Chinese companies said that the COVID-19 pandemic has also posed difficulties as Australia has long and repeatedly been in a state of border closure and internal lockdowns.
Chinese investors, who are not Australian citizens or permanent residents, were unable to obtain visas for business visits to Australia, let alone reaching investment agreements worth millions or even billions of dollars, they said.
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Why is CN not exporting more oil product at these prices? Logic says that it should be taking advantage of these massive spreads on producing diesel and gasoline, especially since they also seem to be getting fairly good access to cheap Russian crude. I would have expected China to have started to issue a lot more quotas because it’s an easy economic win for them and a way to quickly ramp up exports. It’s not in China’s interests to not supply these barrels. It risks hastening the advent of recession in much of the developed world and certainly developing world. Or Maybe CN like US recession lolol.
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For more paper dollars and euros lol?
Rather than actual economic warfare, I think China is just focusing on itself and improving itself, and there really aren't any benefit for China to sell more oil to the west.
What can China buy with the earnings? Major Chinese imports are semiconductor, semiconductor equipment, food, oil and machine tools. Semiconductors are being replaced. Equipment and machine tools are sanctioned. Food can be bought from Russia in RMB or rubles. And oil is being bought straight from Russia, it makes no sense to buy oil from Russia, process it, export it for dollars, to buy oil at a higher price.
So what is China gonna buy?