CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Zichan

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I think we know what 1 and 2 are: S-band and X-band radars, respectively. Would anyone care to speculate what function the panels marked as 3 and 4 perform? 5 should be the CEC antennae.

Another thing I noticed is the absence of the rectangular arrays above the Type 346 radar. I think it was @Tam who speculated that these are IFF interrogators and possibly missile uplink/downlinks. Is the IFF antennae location already visible identifiable , or are they yet to be installed?
 

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KangarooPriest

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The AESA on the 1130 was mentioned. Having an AESA could lead to using it for EW purposes. Also they pointed out that the original 1130 was first seen on Liaoning, and this new upgraded 1130 again makes first appearance on a carrier, so we might see 004 again showing a new CIWS. The first that comes to mind is laser CIWS but Xi points out that a microwave CIWS has been successfully tested and might be more likely.
Wait what?

About the EW AESA though, is that saying the radar can double as a jammer? I imagine it wouldn't be able to use the radar in that mode. Could the EO system guide the gun while the panel is jamming?
 

Richard Santos

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in the official CCTV news: "After the ship is launched, mooring tests and sailing tests will be carried out as planned", outfitting is not mentioned at all. An omission or it's done in the dry dock already?
The ship is clearly incomplete. there are several empty position on the sponsons that indicate addition defensive equipments are planned But not installed. The top of the mast is clearly meant to hold an additional mechanically scanned radar that is currently not there, and the catapults are under work sheds.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Those prediction is just simply wrong. And China in fact speed up the Carrier program. In 4 years this is what it will look like
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My personal wish and hope is that China could build at least 2 carriers at any one time, i.e. at least one in Jiangnan and at least one in Dalian.

Say, if the 004 and subsequent carriers can make it into serialized production, then China can expect to have one new carrier entering serivce every 2-3 years, instead of one new carrier entering service every 4-6 years that is currently practiced by the US.

Remember that Liaoning and Shandong are mainly training carriers in the eyes of the PLAN - The real deal starts with Fujian.

But,
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We could guesstimate the number of carriers that could be operated by the PLAN at a time simply by looking at when the subsequent Type 901 replenishment ships are scheduled for commissioning.
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Based on the table above -
The first Type 901 (pennant number 901), commissioned in 2012, is currently stationed in the North Sea Fleet, which corresponds to Liaoning. Liaoning was commissioned in 2012.

The 2nd Type 901 (pennant number 905), commissioned in 2019, is currently stationed in the South Sea Fleet, which corresponds to Shandong. Shandong was commissioned in 2019.

The 3rd Type 901 (pennant number unknown) is currently fitting out, expected for commissioning in 2023, and would be assigned to the North Sea Fleet. That means she is meant for Fujian, which is also expected for commissioning in 2024 for the North Sea Fleet.

The 4th Type 901 is currently under construction, expected for commissioning in 2026, and would be assigned to the South Sea Fleet.

The 5th Type 901 is currently in planning stage, expected for commissioning in 2027, and would be assigned to the North Sea Fleet.

This means that if things go smoothly for the coming years, 004 may be commissioned sometime in the 2026-2028 range, to be stationed in the South Sea Fleet.
Meanwhile, 005 may (hopefully) be commissioned sometime in the 2027-2029 range, to be stationed in the North Sea Fleet.

Therefore, I really do hope that the PLAN could operate at least 4 carriers before 2030. This is because IMO, the 2027-2030 range would be the best time for the final act of reunification of a certain southeastern island into China proper, should all avenues for a peaceful reunification have been exhausted. Plus, cunducting said reunification at that period while the USN is at their weakest, before their warships could ever bounce back in numbers when going into the 2030, would give a bigger edge for the PLAN in the Western Pacific.

(Side note: IMHO, now, China just should go with a second 003 that would rectify and mend any mistakes found on the Fujian, further improving the Fujian design, while buying enough time for China's marine nuclear propulsion technology to mature for carrier usage)
 
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