Ukrainian War Developments

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Bill Blazo

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The Ukrainians are feeling more confident and I don't blame them. They're whipping the Russians in the north. You can start to see they're getting the sense that Russia is a paper tiger with 1,700 nuclear warheads that won't ever be used in this conflict, so why not hit back hard inside Russian territory?
They were busy launching Tochkas into Russian territory from day 1. It is just the second time they manage to hit something without interception. First one was hit on Millerovo airfield.

(I actually suspect it is just accident, there is tonns of ammo moving right now, it is a question of time that some would explode due to mishandling)
 

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The Ukrainians are feeling more confident and I don't blame them. They're whipping the Russians in the north. You can start to see they're getting the sense that Russia is a paper tiger with 1,700 nuclear warheads that won't ever be used in this conflict, so why not hit back hard inside Russian territory?
Do the Ukrainians have Daisy cutters and thermobaric bombs in the numbers that the Russians have? Do you think that the Russians won't ever use a lot more of them?
 

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They were busy launching Tochkas into Russian territory from day 1. It is just the second time they manage to hit something without interception. First one was hit on Millerovo airfield.

(I actually suspect it is just accident, there is tonns of ammo moving right now, it is a question of time that some would explode due to mishandling)
"Busy launching" since day 1 is part of the problem. Why do the Tochkas still exist? Why weren't they wiped out weeks ago? In war you're supposed to wipe out the enemy force with furious and overwhelming firepower, not let Tochkas fly here, there, and everywhere.
 

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The Ukrainians are feeling more confident and I don't blame them. They're whipping the Russians in the north. You can start to see they're getting the sense that Russia is a paper tiger with 1,700 nuclear warheads that won't ever be used in this conflict, so why not hit back hard inside Russian territory?
With what? Oktyabrsky, Volgograd Oblast is at least 290 km from the closest Russia-Ukraine border in Luhansk. That is far away from any safe position for Ukrainian forces to even launch a long range precision missile, let alone the fact that such a missile will certainly be intercepted if it is to travel that far into Russian Airspace. They will need to launch at least from West of Bakhmut to be safe, and that's nearly 450 km away. What +450 km missiles do the Ukrainian military even have? Did you pull it out of you ass?

You're in a military forum that has one of the highest standards for knowledge and information accuracy. Don't make a fool of yourself.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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Russia annexed Crimea and fought an 8-year long proxy war to prevent Ukraine to joining NATO, but that didn't deter Ukraine or NATO. This current direct Russian involvement is an expansion of the war to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO (again). So therefore, to prevent future NATO aspirations, Russia should just end the Zelenskiy regime right now. There should be no reason why Russia needs another "NEXT WAR" to achieve the objectives it set out today, you are repeating the same mistake again expected a different outcome. Just end the regime to have a permanent long-term solution.
Not hitting Ukraine hard enough to the degree where they hurt bad will only fuel resentment i.e. Franco Prussian War and Winter War. It will set up a more brutal war later.
The Ukrainians are feeling more confident and I don't blame them. They're whipping the Russians in the north. You can start to see they're getting the sense that Russia is a paper tiger with 1,700 nuclear warheads that won't ever be used in this conflict, so why not hit back hard inside Russian territory?
This is more likely to be a sabotage or accident than a launch.
 

Jingle Bells

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"Busy launching" since day 1 is part of the problem. Why do the Tochkas still exist? Why weren't they wiped out weeks ago? In war you're supposed to wipe out the enemy force with furious and overwhelming firepower, not let Tochkas fly here, there, and everywhere.
Tochkas has neither the range nor the accuracy to hit a ammo depot in Oktyabrsky, Volgograd Oblast, from any tactically feasible and realistic positions in Ukraine.

Why don't you go to google map and see for yourself where Oktyabrsky, Volgograd Oblast is?!

Dude, can we just be little bit more professional and less bravado here, please!
 

FairAndUnbiased

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"Busy launching" since day 1 is part of the problem. Why do the Tochkas still exist? Why weren't they wiped out weeks ago? In war you're supposed to wipe out the enemy force with furious and overwhelming firepower, not let Tochkas fly here, there, and everywhere.
They were wiped mostly. The last successful Tochka-U hit was a partial interception of a strike on civilians in Donetsk, several weeks ago. Even US was unable to find all of Saddam's TELs in Iraq.

The bigger problem is that Russia is holding back on strategic bombing of targets it can never hope to hold like Kiev, or troop concentrations in the Donbass. And if they're going for a partition along the Dnieper they need to wipe the bridges.
 
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