Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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China getting ready to stab Russia in the back:

Why would an article a Chinese person wrote need to be translated into Chinese? More like his CIA contact wrote it in his name and got someone else to translate it.

It's also wrong about everything, another piece of western copium. This conflict suits China very well. We won't hear any more lies about concentration camps and COVID bioweapons, at least for a few months. NATO will be remilitarised but the Anglo dream of it being used against China is dead. Russia will be the new enemy and Europe and America will continue to accurate their decline by engaging in a cold war with them.

For the first week of the war, all we were hearing was that the Russian military was a wet paper bag. Pretty soon the media will forget all that and it'll become a bigger threat than the Soviet Union was to justify the massive military spending that's about to happen.

Before this war the poorer European countries were flirting with recognising Taiwan. Now I doubt even the major European countries will dare oppose China on anything. Lithuania is already fxxked thanks to America, and they may as well start learning Russian now.

As for the dream that China is going to sanction Russia for its operation in the Ukraine. Even if you hadn't shown yourself as China's enemy, China didn't sanction America after Iraq or Afghanistan.

The best thing for China to do is act as a mediator between the west and Russia once this war is over in a week or two and Ukraine is annexed. Drop your sanctions, and Russia will keep selling gas and return your mercenaries they captured.
 

Overbom

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As for the dream that China is going to sanction Russia for its operation in the Ukraine. Even if you hadn't shown yourself as China's enemy, China didn't sanction America after Iraq or Afghanistan.
Indeed. China has been as consistent on the Ukrainian issue as with the US invading Afghanistan. In both cases, China called for calm, peace and diplomacy

Anyone who is surprised by China's stance is either an idiot or uniformed. Just open a history book and you will find out that in the past decades China has been following a very similar (if not exactly the same) pattern on responding to wars
 
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yongpengsuen

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Indeed. China has been as consistent on the Ukrainian issue as with the US invading Afghanistan. In both cases, China called for calm, peace and diplomacy

Anyone who is surprised by China's stance is either an idiot or uniformed. Just open a history book and you will find out that in the past decades China has been following a very similar (if not exactly the same) pattern on responding to wars

Also, China is not going to help the US because the US arms Taiwan separatists / traitors. Plus, Russia is a neighbor of China, the US is not. Also, Russia plays a key role in China retaking Taiwan from separatists / traitors.
 

tphuang

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If you don't live in America and think everyone wants to punish Russia here, you can take a look here
at what populists think. Right now, it's fashionable for liberal elites and professionals to be anti-Russian here. To the point that almost no one cares about COVID or China anymore. Funnily, that's a good thing for China. I don't know how long that will last.

On the other hand, the only consequences of sanctions so far have been higher gas prices. And there is already a culture war on why gas prices/energy. Long term, I think economy will suffer and inflation will get worse. In a few months, it's quite likely people will get tired off bad economy or high inflation from all the sanctions. Imposing sanctions on Russia isn't the same as imposing sanctions on Iran. It's one thing for liberal elites to feel good about themselves for making a "sacrifice" for democracy/liberty. It's quite different for 2/3 of the country living pay check to pay check. I think there is a good chance in a few months, people here will get tired of results of Russian sanctions. Once imposed, the effect of sanctions don't go away for a long time. There will be general weariness for future wide spread sanctions.
 

tokenanalyst

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China getting ready to stab Russia in the back:

That guy has zero understanding on current geopolitics, in the eyes of the U.S. Russia is just an momentary annoyance while China is their long time threat and no amount of goodwill of part the Chinese will ever change that. I think what the Chinese are going to do is to say: This is an European conflict and we have nothing to do with that. The Europeans can't cut the Chinese without hurting their stagflated economies, so they will have to accept that reality. The Chinese and the Russians will find ways to do their business and knowing the nontransparent vast network of China state companies that do not even do business in the West, is pretty possible. Also this will be an interesting case of study for the Chinese to see how Russia will survive the sanctions becuase is almost certainly that will apply to them in the future even if they don't take Taiwan by force.

Is too early for either side to claim if Russia sanctions are a success or a failure but an isolated Russia is more of a problem for China than a benefit.
 
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