Ukrainian War Developments

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SampanViking

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This is more to the point - from the BBC live feed
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The International Committee of the Red Cross (IRIC) was hoping to start evacuating 200,000 people from the besieged port city.
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from Mariupol to Zaporizhzhia before "hostilities resumed".
Russia and Ukraine had agreed in principle to evacuate civilians, but had failed to agree the detail of how the evacuation would take place, the ICRC said.
In particular, it said, the two sides had not agreed on:
  • Specific time, locations and evacuation routes
  • Who may be voluntarily evacuated
  • Whether aid can be brought in, not just the evacuation of civilians out
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Now this is what I have been talking about. It sounds as though the Ukrainian forces want the evacuation, North West to Zaporizhzhia in Ukrainian controlled territory, while the civilians themselves want to go East into safe parts of Donetsk. Mariupol is part of Donetsk, it was a center of the 2014 anti coup resistance, it is populated by Russians.
The Ukraine clearly wants propaganda footage of civilians wanting to be part of Ukraine, while the truth is precisely the opposite, which is why the Ukrainian forces (Avoz members in particular) are actively preventing it.

I am confident of this as the other smaller city in Donetsk nearby, which is also being evacuated, only 400 (taken from BBC again) wanted to go to Ukrainian controlled territory.
 
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I meant I'm surprised Ukraine still have so many fighter still in working order.
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Maybe they where in Romania or elsewhere... they got one that we know off that returned home. Maybe most of their fighters have gone in hiding and came back later?
 
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asif iqbal said:
the question is can Russia take Kiev and the other largers cities before the Western counter attack kicks in

once the supplies of ATGM + MANPADS are in the thousands Russian Air Force will suffer too much

without air cover those convoys will be at the mercy of the Anti-tank teams which so far are doing a devastating job

the Western counter attack will proceed within next few days which means Russia does not have alot of time
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Western counter attack?. Dude what evere your are smoking just quit it.
 
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Fede_LV said:
Western counter attack?. Dude what evere your are smoking just quit it.
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I should have been more clear

not a physical counter attack

I mean the weapons supply, there is talk that the Swedish ATGM have arrived already today

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: Western weapons continue to flow into Ukraine - for the first time a Ukrainian serviceman was seen with the Swedish "Pansarskott m/86" (AT4-CS) anti-tank launcher. It was previously reported that Sweden would supply 5,000 AT4 to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500479931981180933
 
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asif iqbal said:
I should have been more clear

not a physical counter attack

I mean the weapons supply, there is talk that the Swedish ATGM have arrived already today

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: Western weapons continue to flow into Ukraine - for the first time a Ukrainian serviceman was seen with the Swedish "Pansarskott m/86" (AT4-CS) anti-tank launcher. It was previously reported that Sweden would supply 5,000 AT4 to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500479931981180933
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Ok, now I understand your point. Some times writing in a foreign language could be tricky. I think the supply of foreign weaponry started at day 1.
 
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