Ukrainian War Developments

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sferrin

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er no, do you deny that war is portrayed in a videogame and sanitised way in the west as opposed to how it was portrayed during the vietnam era? Such game-ification and war porn allows for greater public support for war, hence the surveys showing support for politicians to 'do something' re Ukraine
I was giving you the benefit of a doubt that you weren't actually that ignorant. Read through this thread. Posts of people promoting nuclear retaliation for trivial stuff, suggesting shooting down NATO aircraft over NATO territory, practically foaming at the mouth demanding more Chinese nukes to stave off the Great Satan. There's stupidity enough to go around. It's a trivial, juvenile group of individuals, and they hail from all corners of the globe, but the vast majority of people would rather have peace. In the words of Rodney King, "can't we all just get along?"
 

plawolf

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That's interesting (if true). Reason 65th why you shut down communications in the country you want to invade
"66224. That's how many men returned from abroad at this moment to defend their Country from the horde. These are 12 more combat and motivated brigades"

Men like that would have returned eventually no matter what.

Better they do so now and are clearly and easily identifiable on the battlefield than after the war in civilian guise with training and suitcases of explosives from western intelligence after the war is over.
 

Vatt’ghern

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I was giving you the benefit of a doubt that you weren't actually that ignorant. Read through this thread. Posts of people promoting nuclear retaliation for trivial stuff, suggesting shooting down NATO aircraft over NATO territory, practically foaming at the mouth demanding more Chinese nukes to stave off the Great Satan. There's stupidity enough to go around. It's a trivial, juvenile group of individuals, and they hail from all corners of the globe, but the vast majority of people would rather have peace. In the words of Rodney King, "can't we all just get along?"
There's a massive propaganda campaign to dehumanise Russians and wage war on Russia that could very easily be applied to China as well; what Chomsky calls manufacturing consent is exactly what we are observing with Ukraine- except that unlike Iraq 2003, the american public is unlikely to be as supportive of war against Russia as they were against non white Iraqis.
There is a definite incongruency between the aims of the western Elites and the western people.
 

Overbom

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Men like that would have returned eventually no matter what.

Better they do so now and are clearly and easily identifiable on the battlefield than after the war in civilian guise with training and suitcases of explosives from western intelligence after the war is over.
They are certainly men who would have returned either way. However, I doubt that the number would be as high as it is now.

In any case, although they are untrained/newbies, quantity has a quality all its own (kinda ironic, i never thought I would ever have to say this against Russia)
 
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Vatt’ghern

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Its not completely contradictory. "Send soldiers to fight" would mean committing ground troops to the average American, not planes.
America never sends in its troops without air superiority- which would mean 'No Fly Zone' and resultant world war 3 as Putin has said he doesnt care which alliance a hostile state belongs to should they enforce a no Fly Zone.

At the moment you would most likely have UK/US SpecOps in Ukranian livery under the 'foreign legion' guise.
 

plawolf

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They are certainly men who would have returned either way. However, I doubt that the number would be as high as it is now.

In any case, although they are untrained/newbies, quantity has a quality all its own (kinda ironic, i never thought I would ever have to say this against Russia)
A shell doesn’t care if there are 10 people or 1 in its blast radius.

A bunch of untrained civilians will be as effective in a firefight as Star Wars storm troopers. I don’t see the Russians being unduly concerned even if you multiply the arrivals by 10.
 
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