Ukrainian War Developments

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gelgoog

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They’ve been highly effective given only 1-2 Ukrainian drones have been lost; when compared to the some twenty to thirty armored vehicles and tanks that Russia has lost to TB-2 attacks; however their most important contribution on the battlefield thus far has been the destruction of a Russian supply train, destroying some 50+ oil and fuel cars and hindering any further rail movement in the region.

TB-2 has also been shown to have been used for effective counter battery fire in Kharkov.

Has definitely been effective, we’ll have to wait until after the war to know to what extent.
So Russian air defence has been worse than the Armenian and Libyan militias? The Ukrainian claims don't add up to me.

What's the source for this? I haven't been paying as close attention the past few days so I may have missed released footage.

They paid for themselves with the fuel train they took out.
 

Lapin

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This might be off topic but I want to put my two cents. People who think Trump won because of Russian interference are no different from those believe Biden cheated the election are the same, they're both sore losers.
Even if they had believed that Donald Trump won the 2016 election on account of 'Russian interference',
no one stormed the Capitol Building in attempting to prevent him from taking office as President.

That's a major difference.
 

meckhardt98

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So Russian air defence has been worse than the Armenian and Libyan militias? The Ukrainian claims don't add up to me.

What's the source for this? I haven't been paying as close attention the past few days so I may have missed released footage.

They paid for themselves with the fuel train they took out.
Videos released by the Ukrainian MoD alongside aftermath photos taken by boots on the ground. TB-2 wasn’t employed until a few days after the invasion so any videos before then were from the Syrian conflict or Armenian-Azeri conflict.

If you like I can find the videos for you or you can find them yourself relatively easy.

Russian TORs systems have been seen better inter-grated in battle groups and convoys as a result. The materials and size of the TB-2 make it particularly hard to find on radar when compared to contemporary aircraft.
 

Overbom

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I find the visual map differences from the western military analysts and the Russian media side peculiar to say the least. PR at play?
We should note that given the state of the weather/fields(mud), the actual control area is somewhere between the maps provided SW and the quoted map source

Lets not forget that the practical control area, most probably means captured villages, roads, and 100m/LOS for each side of the road

The West, underestimates the control area Russia overestimates the control area. The truth is somewhere in between.

Honestly, it depends on how many troops they have in the country to establish solid control for this huge land. You cannot expect with so few troops to establish effective control of all these places.
This is also why there so many reports about ambushes behind Russian lines. Air assets for ISR are really needed here for Russia
 

meckhardt98

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Guide for identifying invading Russian forces.

Z - Russian Eastern Forces
[Z] - Crimean Forces
O - Belarusian Forces
V - Naval Infantry
X - Kadyrov Chechen Forces
A - Special Forces

Russian helicopters are typically painted grey whereas Ukrainian helicopters are typically green or blue and have two white stripes towards the tail rotor.
 

Overbom

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Guide for identifying invading Russian forces.

Z - Russian Eastern Forces
[Z] - Crimean Forces
O - Belarusian Forces
V - Naval Infantry
X - Kadyrov Chechen Forces
A - Special Forces

Russian helicopters are typically painted grey whereas Ukrainian helicopters are typically green or blue and have two white stripes towards the tail rotor.
Belarussian forces are still sitting at the border with Ukraine, right?
 
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