Ukrainian War Developments

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Dalit

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@windsclouds2030 yup correct brother, why destroy something you owned and the Russia way of warfare is more humane and civilized than the much acclaimed US and NATO shock and awed, Just ask the Libyans, Serbian and the Iraqis.

The hypocrisy displayed by the Western powers has been mind numbing. The Western powers have been spilling blood long before their colonial days. As long as blood is spilt far from Western lands you won't notice any outrage. Now chickens have come home to roost.
 

Stealthflanker

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and Russia is smart enough not to mess around any fiurther with Energodar Nuclear power plant. so there is that.

I'm curious tho how far they will attempt to offset the incredible informational advantage that given to Ukraine from NATO aircraft.
 

enroger

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and Russia is smart enough not to mess around any fiurther with Energodar Nuclear power plant. so there is that.

I'm curious tho how far they will attempt to offset the incredible informational advantage that given to Ukraine from NATO aircraft.

Nato probably has E-8 for C&C and surveillance and some ELINT types circling just outside the airspace right now. If I'm the Russian I would send some EW plane right across the border and blast noise at them
 

Stealthflanker

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Nato probably has E-8 for C&C and surveillance and some ELINT types circling just outside the airspace right now. If I'm the Russian I would send some EW plane right across the border and blast noise at them

This is possible tho. The NATO may consider it a form of "cyber attack" and trigger article-5.

take them down with s-400

Out of question, a real article 5 trigger. and squared as the plane are inside NATO controlled airspace.
 

windsclouds2030

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Reminder to viewers to not trust every footage they see.

Well, I have no surprise for some notable authors already warned much earlier from day 1 that a heavy PSYOPS will be carried out... just forget where I read it since so many sources.

But every one who paid attention into the controversies and the role of the White Helmet in Syria should have better knowledge on what may happen. I believe US & UK have the best skills in this field. They have been engaging in this skill for very long time.

Check the book Killing Hope authored by Professor William Blum for some ideas.
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We won't know the many details of this war -- we can only see the very surfaces in war -- still the war outcome cannot be lied at the end no matter how many twists and spins are being poured in, in time we shall know who's the victor who's the loser. And that's what really matters.

What's the difference of this war vs the other wars in modern era since the Yugoslavia/Serbia one in 1999, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen (plus smaller or older ones: Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Somalia/Mogadishu, Bahrain) -- with the exception of Syrian War whereas Russia took part directly, in all other wars we witness the US/NATO as the strong party hammering their victims... but this time it's in total reversal, the strong party is Russia hammering the brainchild regime raised by US/NATO -- thus we are witnessing the media hysteria to a no-precedence level -- throughout my lifetime I have never seen such hysteria in the west and its media regarding a war like this one.

“In war, truth is the first casualty.” — Aeschylus
 

Deino

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Just very simple logic, @Deino -- in addition to the info posted by @Temstar and others.

Russian force won't destroy any asset in Ukraine unnecessarily -- unless those assets can be used for the battle benefits of the Zelensky side!

WHY? Because at the end Russia will own Ukraine! And any damage there will be at Russian expense to repair, rebuild in future. This is just a battle to clean up that land from extremist Ukro forces (Azov/Aidar, Right Sectors, etc) and the installed puppet government from the 2014 coup.

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Come on! Russians are currently destroying the whole country ... and from what do you think can Russia afford to rebuild anything of this mess once the war is over!?

Plain naive to think so ... as naive as to believe all propaganda from both sides.


Reminder to viewers to not trust every footage they see.
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“In war, truth is the first casualty.” — Aeschylus

Exactly take this as an advice for you: DON't post anything as a fact and even more NOT with such stupids mocking comments unless you are 100% sure it is real.

It is one thing to post something as "as it seems" or allegedly or "reported by" so anyone can make his/her own conclusion. Otherwise it is propaganda: You instead repeatedly post anything as facts, as if all Ukrainians are Nazis and as if there are no - and if then only justified - civil casualties!

STOP THIS
 
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ansy1968

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The hypocrisy displayed by the Western powers has been mind numbing. The Western powers have been spilling blood long before their colonial days. As long as blood is spilt far from Western lands you won't notice any outrage. Now chickens have come home to roost.
@Dalit oohh thanks bro and welcome to SDF! :) now I understand why PLA invested so much on artillery and MLRS, you destroy your enemy (armies) on the move and shape the battlefield rather than rely on Airpower to destroy and devastated a country.
 
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