I know your stance is incorrigible, but let me clarify a couple things.
What you think you know is wrong. Show me evidence and I will change if it is appropriate.
1. No one is questioning whether he is patriotic
Solarz was, saying that he accomplished many selfish things and that makes him a genius. If what he did was an accomplishment from his perspective, then he must be unpatriotic because he did only bad things to America.
, the question is whether he is puts himself first above all (
@solarz original point)
No, that's not the question at all; I never said he's selfless. The question is whether or not he succeeded or accomplished anything. To say yes is to say that he set out to con the American public and he succeeded in creating his own cult. I say he failed because his aim was to unite the US under his way and to defeat China's rise; creating a cult and dividing the nation to become the king of the idiots at the expense of America's race against China is NOT what he wanted to do.
So I see you've misunderstood the debate entirely. The question is indeed whether or not he's generally patriotic, and NOT whether or not he's self-sacrificing, which I would never claim.
2. Nothing about these businesses scream patriot. They don’t try to create lasting American jobs, they don’t try to address some of the common criticisms of modern american business vs. The common american worker. It is just him lazily putting his name on anything that comes his way.
They don't scream patriot or selfish person. They are the normal actions of a businessman, but a normal businessman when put decades later into the seat of the president is expected to be patriotic, by which it means that his aim was to benefit the nation, NOT to damage the nation to create his own cult following.
As an aside, no one ever named their companies “America Product/Service”? You’d really stand on that hill?
The hill is that you cannot say that because he put his own name on his own brand, that makes him selfish or unlikely to be a patriot.
I will now go on (because this is the funny stuff thread)
Trump Home (Furniture)
Trump Taj Mahal (Casino)
Trump Ice Natural Spring Water
Trump Mortgage
Trump Vodka
No less than 3 fragrances: Empire by Trump, Success by Trump, Donald Trump: The Fragrance
None of that is funny to me. Trump says and does many thing that are hilarious from a Chinese perspective (and disastrous from an American one) but putting his own name on his own products to earn money is among the least funny (or worthy of scrutinization) of things that I can imagine.
