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PeoplesPoster

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lol, this is hilarious.

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Question should be, do Chinese investors even want to put money into such a unstable and hostile country.

India is considering easing scrutiny on certain foreign direct investment, according to people familiar with the matter, after rules mainly aimed at China created a bottleneck for inflows.

Currently, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government scrutinizes all investment proposals from companies that are either based in countries that share a land border with India or have an investor from one of these nations. It is now considering exempting proposals where the so-called beneficial ownership is less than 10%, which means the investor may be from a neighboring country but holds only a small stake in the firm proposing the investment.

The move is being considered after proposals worth $6 billion were stuck amid the red tape, the people added, asking not to be identified discussing private deliberations. The proposal could be approved as early as the next month.

The government had imposed curbs on such investments amid a bloody border standoff with China and also avert risks of opportunistic takeovers. The move slowed down the approval process with proposals from the neighboring nations including China and Hong Kong piling up.

An email and text message sent to the trade and industry ministry spokesperson remained unanswered.

Apart from delaying, the restriction had also complicated deal-making for investors. Relaxing the rules will broaden the pool of investors that capital-hungry Indian firms can tap, as local firms increasingly turn to large global investors to fund their growth.

As of Nov. 2021, over 100 proposals are awaiting clearance from the government, with around a quarter of them of over $10 million each.
 

ansy1968

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The longtime China bull said the U.S. and other countries could benefit from a similar approach

Ray Dalio, founder of Bridgewater, said the U.S. could benefit from a “common prosperity” approach similar to China’s.

Jan. 10, 2022 10:08 pm ET

Bridgewater Associates LP founder Ray Dalio backed China’s push for “common prosperity,” or greater equality, under President Xi Jinping and said countries such as the U.S. could benefit from a similar approach.

Beijing’s pursuit of common prosperity has been a driver behind its wide-ranging crackdowns on sectors such as e-commerce, videogames, property and after-school tutoring. The heightened regulatory pressure in turn has caused steep declines for many Chinese stocks listed in the U.S. and Hong Kong, and prompted many investors to reassess the risks and rewards of Chinese assets.

Mr. Dalio, a longtime China bull, however, has warned market watchers not to misinterpret the actions as demonstrating that Chinese leaders were “showing their true anticapitalist stripes,” and has stressed the benefits of investing in the country.

“Common prosperity is a good thing,” Mr. Dalio said in a video appearance at UBS Group AG’s Greater China Conference on Monday. “It’s another way of saying prosperity for most people.”

Mr. Dalio said his views on the topic were “pretty much aligned” with those of the Chinese leadership, and widespread opportunity would lead to a better economy and a fairer system.

“As Deng Xiaoping and others understood, it’s a cycle,” Mr. Dalio said. “First you get rich, and then you make a point of distributing those opportunities in a more equal way.” Mr. Deng, China’s former paramount leader, unleashed economic reforms from the late 1970s onward. Those changes allowed China to grow much faster than it had under former Communist Party leader Mao Zedong, who died in 1976.

“A lot of people don’t know the true thinking, even though there have been attempts to describe it, and tend to make the mistake of thinking that this is like a return to communism under Mao, rather than understanding it’s just part of the evolutionary process,” he said.

Mr. Dalio said he thought that through its own system, the U.S. “needs more common prosperity, a lot of countries do.” His presentation showed U.S. wealth and income gaps at heights last hit in the 1930s.

Ahead of the same conference, a senior banker told reporters that China was committed to welcoming global investors and to further opening up its financial markets.

Tommie Fang, UBS’s head of China global markets, said Friday that he had recently spent a week in Beijing meeting with financial regulators. Mr. Fang said he had seen “a lot of positive energy, pro-business and opening-up” attitude in his meetings with the central bank, securities, banking and foreign-exchange regulators, and leadership at the new Beijing Stock Exchange.

In late July, after a crackdown on tutoring roiled markets, the China Securities Regulatory Commission met privately with representatives of global financial institutions and tried to assuage investors’ concerns, saying China would consider the market impact before introducing future policies.

Mr. Fang, who attended the July meeting, said: “I firmly stand by the view that the policy environment in China is more stabilized and the valuations are more attractive versus the beginning of last year.”

He said Chinese regulators were “making very clear and dedicated efforts to enhance the dialogue” with their U.S. counterparts over U.S.-listed Chinese companies, which face the threat of delisting in a dispute over access to audit papers.

Mr. Dalio told conference attendees that his hedge-fund management firm had thrived since it started applying its all-weather approach, which aims to make money regardless of broader market moves, to investing in mainland China.

“We’ve been doing that for about three years onshore. That’s done very well, whether the direction of the market is up or down. I’m just thrilled to be a participant,” he said. In November, The Wall Street Journal reported that Bridgewater had raised the equivalent of $1.25 billion for its third investment fund in China, its largest to date.

Mr. Dalio advised investors to be wary of holding cash, given its drawbacks on an inflation-adjusted basis. “Stop viewing cash as a safe investment. Investors think of cash as safe because it doesn’t have much volatility. The mind-set needs to change,” he said.
@Strangelove bro he is a businessman not a banker cause the Tenets of business, the more disposable income the more profit can be made.
 

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"Goldman Sachs Group Inc. cut its forecast for China’s economic growth this year to 4.3% due to the increased difficulty of containing the more-contagious omicron coronavirus variant."
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Seems likely but Goldman got the cause and effect backwards

 

SanWenYu

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These who work for the MSM on reporting anything China must have a very twisted mind.

In this particular case, the story is full of phrases and sentences like:

"quick to clamp down on speculative frenzies",

"The sector is riddled with speculative buying and is over-levered, posing a risk to the financial system in a downturn",

"It worsens inequality as wealthy landlords hoard properties",

"to break the economy’s addiction to property",

"to reduce the reliance on property by boosting investment in high-tech and clean energy industries",

"to make growth more sustainable and higher quality",

"the era which enriched real estate moguls and homeowners alike has ended",

"Home prices will only grow at a tightly managed zone in the future, meaning housing will look increasingly like utilities",

etc.

Cover up all the occurrences of "China", "Chinese", "Communist Party" and "Xi Jinping" in this article, and show it to an average westerner. How likely would he not wish to see all this happening in his own country?

Yet the writer still believes that this is going to be a scene of apocalypsy for China and Chairman Xi.
 
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