PLAN Current Vessel Inventory Thread
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The TV program reports that PLAN will start construction of 20 destroyers in 2022 (12 052DL [Dalian] and 8 055 [Jiangnan]). All current 8 055 ships will be commissioned in the first half of 2022. At 7:56, the program is very emphatic that all 20 will be launched in 2022.
Sounds ridiculous. It would be by far the greatest feat of naval shipbuilding in human history. Laying down 12 modern destroyers + 8 cruisers and launching all 20 a few months later?
What's the status on the 091 nuke attack submarines? Some pundits/sources sometimes claim up to 3 of those are still in use. While others omit them completely, suggesting those were decommissioned. If they were decommissioned, does anyone have a piece of news about the decommissioning?
For the non-Chinese speakers among us, what is it?
The thumbnail doesn't say too much, but the video actually has pretty good subtitles. Take a look if you haven't
I watched it so you don't have to. But, eh, I don't see a clear stance really. On one hand the person says Chinese navy has pretty much reached the point where additional new destroyers aren't needed. But then later on, he says when a new generation of ships is ready, that the dumplings will continue.
Of course, we're talking about a random Youtuber, so his opinion is not necessarily really worth more than yours or mine on this forum.
It is true, however, that pretty much all the destroyers PLAN has are either newly build or have been modernized in the last 10 years. So, I don't see large scale retirements in the coming few years. Any additional destroyers would have to come on top of everything else. Increasing personnel numbers and requirements.
Just how much room is there to increase personnel is next to impossible to say. We seem to be seeing those 056 corvettes being replaced with additional 054A frigates. That in itself will require a pretty big jump in personnel. Carriers are a whole new class - each new carrier will require even more additional personnel. Not sure about landing ships - but if the older ones don't get retired in big numbers, then new 071 and 075/076 will also require additional personnel being recruited.
Same will likely be true for nuke sub crews. I don't see those replacing the old conventional subs, personnel numbers wise. It's more likely the overall number of submarine crews will shoot up in the coming years.
Just where the limit is in PLAN's requirements - how many sailors does it plan to enlist? Who knows. But such a figure could be key in answering just how many more new ships will we see in coming years.
Of course, we're talking about a random Youtuber, so his opinion is not necessarily really worth more than yours or mine on this forum.
It is true, however, that pretty much all the destroyers PLAN has are either newly build or have been modernized in the last 10 years. So, I don't see large scale retirements in the coming few years. Any additional destroyers would have to come on top of everything else. Increasing personnel numbers and requirements.
Just how much room is there to increase personnel is next to impossible to say. We seem to be seeing those 056 corvettes being replaced with additional 054A frigates. That in itself will require a pretty big jump in personnel. Carriers are a whole new class - each new carrier will require even more additional personnel. Not sure about landing ships - but if the older ones don't get retired in big numbers, then new 071 and 075/076 will also require additional personnel being recruited.
Same will likely be true for nuke sub crews. I don't see those replacing the old conventional subs, personnel numbers wise. It's more likely the overall number of submarine crews will shoot up in the coming years.
Just where the limit is in PLAN's requirements - how many sailors does it plan to enlist? Who knows. But such a figure could be key in answering just how many more new ships will we see in coming years.
On the Chinese wiki it informs that only one is in service and is already in decommissioning status.