China Flanker Thread II

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Maikeru

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I wonder if J16D will be used in standalone brigades or a certain number allocated to each 'standard' J16 brigade?
 

ougoah

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The Workmanship is outstanding.

Not at all. the worksmanship from SAC is very poor compared to CAC. J-10C is smoooooooth J-20 on another level. A step above old flankers from the 20th century but the Russian new flankers are at least as smooth as the J-16 which is the most well made Chinese flanker already. None of them are impressive for 2021 even ignoring 5th gen fighters. Rafale, J-10C, F-16, and Typhoon all have better surfaces.
 

ustc50ace

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Not at all. the worksmanship from SAC is very poor compared to CAC. J-10C is smoooooooth J-20 on another level. A step above old flankers from the 20th century but the Russian new flankers are at least as smooth as the J-16 which is the most well made Chinese flanker already. None of them are impressive for 2021 even ignoring 5th gen fighters. Rafale, J-10C, F-16, and Typhoon all have better surfaces.
That's an overstatement. SAC may not be as good as CAC, it is no way near been considered poor.
 

foxmulder

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Not at all. the worksmanship from SAC is very poor compared to CAC. J-10C is smoooooooth J-20 on another level. A step above old flankers from the 20th century but the Russian new flankers are at least as smooth as the J-16 which is the most well made Chinese flanker already. None of them are impressive for 2021 even ignoring 5th gen fighters. Rafale, J-10C, F-16, and Typhoon all have better surfaces.


J-16D had best surface craftsmanship among flankers. Su-35 is worse. Just observe more pictures.. Those fighters you listed may seem like they have better craftmanship but it is only because of composite surfaces do show the underlying frame. Smoothness of metal surfaces/rivet etc is top notch on J-16D. It is not fair to compare it to 5th generation since 5th gen has further treatments on their surface which hides craftsmanship.
 

ougoah

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That's an overstatement. SAC may not be as good as CAC, it is no way near been considered poor.

The close ups show poorer worksmanship compared to CAC's J-10C. It's clear as day.

J-16D had best surface craftsmanship among flankers. Su-35 is worse. Just observe more pictures.. Those fighters you listed may seem like they have better craftmanship but it is only because of composite surfaces do show the underlying frame. Smoothness of metal surfaces/rivet etc is top notch on J-16D. It is not fair to compare it to 5th generation since 5th gen has further treatments on their surface which hides craftsmanship.

Well the Su-35 isn't any better yes but neither of them are comparable to J-10C's surfaces and riveting. Can you guys not see it?

On closer look, the panels themselves are excellent, courtesy of new machinery and tools used to form them and probably totally new techniques. The edges are not as good as J-10's and do not do the overlapping technique where edges often bulge a tiny bit. The riveting is just as good, perfectly flush. Just a few rough edges but makes it look much worse.
 
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