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Bellum_Romanum

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emblem21 said:
If australia makes this attempt and is found wanting, what is going to stop China and Russia from doing the same if not worse. Keep in mind that it will take years to build these subs, by the time australia gains these weapons, the war would long be over. Understand that Australia’s military without the aid of the USA would accomplish about as much as the HK has done recently, absolutely jack shit. Australia can try but mark my words, australia will not come out in one piece. Because australia has never been struck once, the impact will be far great once such a strike has hit, australia is still harboring illusions of grandeur, like Taiwan and Japan, all of which at the right time, is going to be shattered for good soon enough
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Hopefully not tbh. War or conflict for the region is not on anyone's best interest least of all Australia. China should continue it's strategic aims and goals without getting worked up from any future acronyms these western countries led by the U.S. keeps coming up with. Frankly, they're just noise to try and rattle China; they're trying to steer Chinese decision making apparatus into a panic which means they're trying to indirectly dictate into the Chinese decision matrix. Which goes to show how much or how little the western countries - aided by their bazillion think tanks -- have learned or understand CPC planning process.

It seems that westerners are indeed great at making tactical choices but poor strategic planners. They don't have any strategic patience since most of these leaders don't have the luxury to patiently wait for their plans to come to fruition that will take decades to mature. And part of the impatience can be cultural as well since the west and westerners have become accustomed to a culture of instant gratification that in my opinion has pretty much permeated the whole government, whole society to their even greater detriment.
 
Mr T

Mr T

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Tyler said:
Any country can join if all the rules are followed.
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Yes, but the point is that it's unlikely China and CPTPP will reach a consensus on the rules.

CPTPP's current position is that the organisation is not an a la carte menu - you sign up to everything or you don't get in.

China doesn't like external organisations or other countries deciding how to run its economy. CPTPP has lots of rules including regarding state aid and SOEs - in short you must allow a level playing field between SOEs and private companies. The whole point of CPTPP is to go beyond standard agreements to remove tariffs and quotas, so there's not really any scope to change the rules to suit China because then CPTPP's benefits would start disappearing.

Even if China says it will abide by those rules, it's likely to be blackballed if even one member thinks it's being insincere. And given the CCP is planning to intervene in the economy even more heavily than it has done until now, it's difficult to see China getting in.
 
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Andy1974

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Mr T said:
Yes, but the point is that it's unlikely China and CPTPP will reach a consensus on the rules.

CPTPP's current position is that the organisation is not an a la carte menu - you sign up to everything or you don't get in.

China doesn't like external organisations or other countries deciding how to run its economy. CPTPP has lots of rules including regarding state aid and SOEs - in short you must allow a level playing field between SOEs and private companies. The whole point of CPTPP is to go beyond standard agreements to remove tariffs and quotas, so there's not really any scope to change the rules to suit China because then CPTPP's benefits would start disappearing.

Even if China says it will abide by those rules, it's likely to be blackballed if even one member thinks it's being insincere. And given the CCP is planning to intervene in the economy even more heavily than it has done until now, it's difficult to see China getting in.
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I think that China wants to follow these rules because it’s going to be good for them and they are moving in this direction anyway.
 
escobar

escobar

Brigadier
Temstar said:
We Chinese tried the whole alliance thing back during the Warring State period, turns out it's a rubbish strategy because alliance could always be destroyed from within by exploiting the differences in alliance member's interests and cause them to infight, as China is doing right now in front of our eyes.

People who push for alliances are known as 纵横家 because of Warring State, 纵横术 is considered a solved problem in China and all of its strengths and weaknesses and details on how to defeat it has been carefully recorded down by historians for the benefit of future generations.
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US global military dominance is trough its "alliances". That is how US constraint its adversaries, and PLA hate it.
Then saying alliance is a rubbish strategy because alliance could always be destroyed is not what RU and PLA experiment daily.
 
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Andy1974

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bajingan said:
Also like i mentioned before in this thread, australia is involved in the killing of a high ranking intelligence officer General Gusti Putu Danny Nugraha in irian jaya(papua) by providing intelligence to opm
So there is a shadow war going on right now between australia and indonesia
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Don’t worry, the UK is countering Australia also….

UK is selling subs to Australians and Frigates to ASEAN. Our goal is to sell a LOT of hardware into the info-pacific. It’s all about the money..

We have FOR SALE, to include tech transfer and local support/build options as much as possible.…
  • 4.9 Gen Typnoons
  • 5th Gen Aircraft Carrier
  • 6th Gen Aircraft Program membership
  • Two different OPV’s (combat spec’d)
  • Light Frigates
  • Heavy Frigates
  • Meteor Missiles
  • Satellite constellation access
  • Intelligence data
  • AI, Cyber, Unmanned tech
  • Parts and services for all of the above
 
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