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[horse]

They can play all their silly media games, but China can and will take concrete measures that will completely erase all of their salami sliced gains and vastly advance China’s previous position into the bargain.

The recent reports about the coast guards of Taiwan, Japan and America cooperating around Taiwan is interesting.

China should let them do it.

Then after Taiwan, Japan and America establish a coast guard presence around Taiwan waters, China coast guard will actively patrol around Taiwan ports.

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Sooner or later, everything must be backed up.

Salami slicing, if it actually exist in this case, must all be backed up.

It is a principle of warfare. Sometimes, it gets over-extended.

For Taiwan, Japan and America to continue with the coast guard cooperation, they all must be politically and militarily ready to back it up.

America ran away from Afghanistan.

 

[Overbom]

Let's assume the best case scenario and China collapses. That still doesn't solve America's problems because for five to ten years there will be a massive collapse of not just manufacturing capacity but also major export market for U.S. tech firms. There is no way out for an unsolvable problem.

The US doesn't believe in win-win, neither in 1-1. Its all about I win everything, you lose everything. It is 10-0 for them

Its all about winning. They dont care for the consequences. They will just throw the hot potato to the next administration and then retire having the prestige for "collapsing China".


I am almost convinced that they are looking for a Plaza Accord 2 with China, in order to have it as a dumping ground for its products.

 

[Agnus]

I think the main reason that China hasn't taken concrete actions towards Taiwan is mainly because it is still trying to become self sufficient in tech sector. Taking Taiwan will lead to western governments doing a tech trade embargo on China. Once that issue is settled, actions will be taken.

 

[Nobaron]

Like how exactly?

To get people used to it, information warfare. Same as "US was planning to use 80 nukes in NoKo omg" stunt.

US is a dying empire run by psychopaths. It will certainly go down fighting even if it means self destruction.

That is where people miscalculate. A dying empire fights to the death to protect it's own, that it has long worked hard to built, which gives it pride & an identity to it's people, an identity & the motherland people fight to protect.
US"empire", on native america, are consisting of many africans ,quite a lot of latins, huge dumb whites who can't find america on a map, a few asians, all of them are "salaried citizens" to fulfill their dreams. What identity they have? British empire was one of largest & most powerful empire to ever exist. Did it fight to it's last breath?
Who do you think are going to risk their lives in this massive weird cocktail called US? US is an idea that only exists in people's mind. America had never anything to do with it. Ever asked these "americans" how many of them call America "Motherland"?

Don't take it from me, take it from their president

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This nation was built on an idea — the only nation in the world built on an idea.

 

[9dashline]

The US doesn't believe in win-win, neither in 1-1. Its all about I win everything, you lose everything. It is 10-0 for them

Its all about winning. They dont care for the consequences. They will just throw the hot potato to the next administration and then retire having the prestige for "collapsing China".


I am almost convinced that they are looking for a Plaza Accord 2 with China, in order to have it as a dumping ground for its products.

Plaza Accord 2.0 didn't happen, that is precisely why that week Xi didn't go to DC and sent his rep to shake hands with Trump to sign the so called Phase I etc etc then merely a few days later the rest is history cough cough cough

 

[escobar]

I think the main reason that China hasn't taken concrete actions towards Taiwan is mainly because it is still trying to become self sufficient in tech sector. Taking Taiwan will lead to western governments doing a tech trade embargo on China. Once that issue is settled, actions will be taken.

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[Overbom]

Plaza Accord 2.0 didn't happen, that is precisely why that week Xi didn't go to DC and sent his rep to shake hands with Trump to sign the so called Phase I etc etc then the rest is history cough cough cough

But the US has still didnt abandon the idea. They are still trying to stop China's technological rise in order to have it forever consume Western hi-tech goods and eventually becoming totally Western-dependent

This is their dream. Xi resisted this in Trade War 1 and eventually prevailed. Is the US now trying to go for Trade War 2 but with some allies puppets included this time?
Or are they trying to provoke China to do something and then the US crying foul and also enlisting the EU with its plans?

Indeed, sometimes it is a curse that we are living in interesting times

 

[j17wang]

This is what I am also worried about. The US is definetely not run by normal and competent people. This is why I have repeatedly emphasized that China (+ the rest of the World) should prepare a soft landing for the US and then quietly put it into a retirement home.

It is against the interests of the world to have the US collapse. Better to retire peacefully

I would hardly call the people who run the US "people". These are the same things that exterminated 100 million Native Americans to create thier country.

 

[Agnus]

Plaza accords was more something Japanese wanted. It was more of a compromise that happened to prevent a full blown trade war. The Japanese were unable to deal with their inflated currency due to the idiotic policies they had for their estate. Japanese arrogance and close mindedness played a big part. And possibly even more than any grand scheming by America.

 

[horse]

But the US has still didnt abandon the idea. They are still trying to stop China's technological rise in order to have it forever consume Western hi-tech goods and eventually becoming totally Western-dependent

This is their dream. Xi resisted this in Trade War 1 and eventually prevailed. Is the US now trying to go for Trade War 2 but with some allies puppets included this time?
Or are they trying to provoke China to do something and then the US crying foul and also enlisting the EU with its plans?

Indeed, sometimes it is a curse that we are living in interesting times

I still think it is all about the Huawei thing and 5G. That new tech of 5G has the most potential.

The semiconductor fight runs parallel to the Huawei 5G fight, and the 5G fight between China and America is the most important, the IC fight is of secondary importance.

The most advanced chips, 5nm and 3nm, mostly go into the phones. How many phones do we really need?

China is only the third country after America and Russia that was able to produce a modern fighter jet all on its own internally, using only domestic inputs. That was well over a decade ago.

Other things such as a space station, weapons, computers, IoT, cutting edge chips are not required. Good enough chips are required. Quantum computing, no one even knows what kind of chip is required.

IC fight is kind of like settled, that there will be IC decoupling between China and America, and probably two blocks in IC in the future.

The 5G there will be separate blocks in the future, one centered around America. The one centered around America and partners, it is unknown how large it will be.

The Americans are weird because they do not know what they want.

Winning or losing, that is not up to the Americans to decide alone.

Afghanistan is a prefect example of that. Who wins and loses is decided on the battlefield, in technology, the pocketbook, and in hearts and minds. Not in Liberal media editorial columns.